What lengths would you go to help a stranger?

[Anthropophagus]

On a scale of 1 to 10.

1 is paying for someone's coffee because they forgot their wallet.

10 is sacrificing your life for a stranger.

Elaborate on how far you would go to help someone else.

[Nixon]

1, growing up being called fat all my life and bullied by peers has never led me to value those that pass me in the street, instead i expect them to be capable of being horrible and nasty therefore i do not want to sacrifice much for them

[PizzaLuigi]

2 I wouldn’t pay for some random persons coffee tho but if someone were like homeless or like a street performer and I enjoyed their performance I’d give them some money

[Nixon]

it is good that you value the arts like that

+1 gen Z kid point

[Anthropophagus]

Originally Posted by PizzaLuigi

2 I wouldn’t pay for some random persons coffee tho but if someone were like homeless or like a street performer and I enjoyed their performance I’d give them some money

Not really in the spirit of the question. In that situation, you're basically paying for a service (street music). Helping them would be giving them money because they're begging for it.

[Anthropophagus]

Originally Posted by Nickson

1, growing up being called fat all my life and bullied by peers has never led me to value those that pass me in the street, instead i expect them to be capable of being horrible and nasty therefore i do not want to sacrifice much for them

You originally said 4. Trickster.

[Dungeon Snake]

I'm a first responder so my job is to risk my life for people every day. therefore i would rate my answer as a 10. however, i also don't really feel the need to give money and shit to bums on the street. I'll give them some change or something but you don't see me going out of my way to contribute to charity or serve in soup kitchens. although i did spend years of my life doing that shit... i used to work in food pantries, Boys & Girls Club, volunteered with schools and Boy Scouts, etc. in my opinion, People should try to better themselves and accept some level of responsibility for their own behavior. However, there are also material conditions imposed by external systems that impact the lives of human beings. Ideally the government would provide some level of support to the downtrodden, but instead our taxes largely go to wasteful special interest groups. So maybe my answer is more like 8 or 9

[Doog Lord]

-2. If I was walking by someone who was choking and I was the only one there, I would point and laugh.

[Anthropophagus]

Originally Posted by Dungeon Snake

I'm a first responder so my job is to risk my life for people every day. therefore i would rate my answer as a 10. however, i also don't really feel the need to give money and shit to bums on the street. I'll give them some change or something but you don't see me going out of my way to contribute to charity or serve in soup kitchens. although i did spend years of my life doing that shit... i used to work in food pantries, Boys & Girls Club, volunteered with schools and Boy Scouts, etc. in my opinion, People should try to better themselves and accept some level of responsibility for their own behavior. However, there are also material conditions imposed by external systems that impact the lives of human beings. Ideally the government would provide some level of support to the downtrodden, but instead our taxes largely go to wasteful special interest groups. So maybe my answer is more like 8 or 9

Did you take the job because you want to help people or because it's a job (or some mix of the two)? This should factor into it. My job is almost exclusively helping people but my personal answer is more of a 1-2.

[Plopilpy]

I'll try to give money to homeless people in need or I'll give somebody their wallet if they drop it.

[Old Rivers]

Originally Posted by Nickson

1, growing up being called fat all my life and bullied by peers has never led me to value those that pass me in the street, instead i expect them to be capable of being horrible and nasty therefore i do not want to sacrifice much for them

Well then maybe you should lose some weight, you fat faggot.

[Nixon]

nice try but i already have

[PizzaLuigi]

Originally Posted by Plopilpy

I'll try to give money to homeless people in need or I'll give somebody their wallet if they drop it.

So is that a 3 or something?

[Plopilpy]

Yeah, pretty much.

[Shaun]

I feel like this scale is uneven if a 1 means giving money away; a lot of people won't even do that.

I donate blood about six times a year, and I'm cool with small favors like lending the car battery for a jump. Not too many instances where I spent over an hour helping someone, though

So I'll have to go with a 3 or a 4. The bare minimum not to feel like a selfish piece of shit

[Anthropophagus]

I tried to pick what I considered the lowest form of helping/charity which is giving a buck to a bum. I'd rate yours 3 at the highest, more than likely a 2. Keeping in mind that 10 is sacrificing yourself so that a stranger can live.

[Dungeon Snake]

Originally Posted by Old Rivers

Well then maybe you should lose some weight, you fat faggot.

Hahaha

[Anthropophagus]

Originally Posted by PizzaLuigi

So is that a 3 or something?

That's a stone cold 1. 0 is doing nothing. 1-2 is like bare minimum shit any normal human does. I should have anticipated that a forum full of autists would become confused and preoccupied by a rating scale involving human emotion.

[Dungeon Snake]

Originally Posted by Anthropophagus

Did you take the job because you want to help people or because it's a job (or some mix of the two)? This should factor into it. My job is almost exclusively helping people but my personal answer is more of a 1-2.

No ,i definitely started down this career path because I wanted to help people. And I wanted to help myself and broaden my horizons, but moreso I was trying to make a difference in the world. At this point, I've been doing this for about 10 or 11 years so after a certain point, it does just become a job. I wake up and go to it every morning and it's kind of hard to imagine doing anything else, since I've never really had any other job. But I do feel a sense of pride that I make the world maybe slightly better in some small way, or at least my job doesn't make things actively worse. I can't really imagine how people who work in the private sector, slaving away to make some asshole rich so he can blow it on party boats and cocaine.... how do you have any pride? How can you look yourself in the mirror and feel like a man?

[Anthropophagus]

Originally Posted by Dungeon Snake

No ,i definitely started down this career path because I wanted to help people. And I wanted to help myself and broaden my horizons, but moreso I was trying to make a difference in the world. At this point, I've been doing this for about 10 or 11 years so after a certain point, it does just become a job. I wake up and go to it every morning and it's kind of hard to imagine doing anything else, since I've never really had any other job. But I do feel a sense of pride that I make the world maybe slightly better in some small way, or at least my job doesn't make things actively worse. I can't really imagine how people who work in the private sector, slaving away to make some asshole rich so he can blow it on party boats and cocaine.... how do you have any pride? How can you look yourself in the mirror and feel like a man?

I was going to jokingly call you a fag for wanting to help people but I'm also public sector and do the same. I've become considerably more cynical and jaded after my 10.5 years so it's hard to be as bright eyed about any difference I may be making. Franky, I've come to view it as a job and have a work to live mentality. I also 100% agree with the idea that it's more noble to work for a purpose than to make some rich asshole richer in the private sector. I know I'll never earn as much as I deserve, but the benefits are pretty good and I can feel good about myself too.

[I Am Your God]

10 for me would be to stop posting here, but fuck you guys

[Dungeon Snake]

I think you get private sector office cucks who go one of two ways:
1) They become an extremely online justice warrior because they know they're not actually doing anything in real life (and in most cases aren't even capable of doing anything in real life), but this way they get to pat themselves really hard on the back for "Helping" even though they didn't actually do anything (IE, putting pronouns in your twitter bio instead of, you know, actually getting off your ass and helping somebody irl)
2) They become funko pop marvel movie reddit guys who collect gadgets and make soyface videos every time a new star wars comes out. They distract themselves with this ephemeral trash so that they can gloss over the painful contradictions and realities they see all around. "Just don't think about it.." this is true slave mentality.

There's also a lot of overlap between these two personality types.
I think modern western private sector has done a remarkably good job of targeting & capitalizing upon these people. Look at how much money people pay to go sit in front of the latest woke marvel or star wars, or Transformers movie paid for by your good friends in the Department of Defense. They get mad if you even try to challenge it in the slightest way, they've become willing warriors in defense of the corporate properties they love so much. or on behalf of the darling beautiful little angel minorities (while ignoring/exploiting the material conditions that led to their impoverishment)

[I Am Your God]

Originally Posted by Dungeon Snake

1) They become an extremely online justice warrior because they know they're not actually doing anything in real life (and in most cases aren't even capable of doing anything in real life)

This is an extremely valid point, especially for Americans

[Bravoie]

Originally Posted by Dungeon Snake

I think you get private sector office cucks who go one of two ways:
1) They become an extremely online justice warrior because they know they're not actually doing anything in real life (and in most cases aren't even capable of doing anything in real life), but this way they get to pat themselves really hard on the back for "Helping" even though they didn't actually do anything (IE, putting pronouns in your twitter bio instead of, you know, actually getting off your ass and helping somebody irl)
2) They become funko pop marvel movie reddit guys who collect gadgets and make soyface videos every time a new star wars comes out. They distract themselves with this ephemeral trash so that they can gloss over the painful contradictions and realities they see all around. "Just don't think about it.." this is true slave mentality.

There are also plenty of pencil pushers in the public sector that fit the same profile. Academia, in particular, is a huge self-congratulatory safe space where many of those types can not only have job security but also feel empowered by spreading their ideas to students, who in turn eventually graduate and complain about being "exploited" due to a lack of a real skillset. Perhaps those people couldn't cut it in the private sector because they didn't bring any value to the market, which happens to be very efficient at filtering out the fluff.

For what it is worth, I totally respect people doing important work in the public sector, but it's also worth acknowledging that a lot of lazy, risk-averse, and power-hungry people gravitate towards it. Bureaucrats have that reputation for a reason. For example, I know there is no way in hell that the lady working at my local dmv could ever make it in the private sector, so she naturally gravitated to a low-level government position that allows her to be a useless bitch on a power trip all day, every day

In the private sector, you actually have true freedom. If you're not satisfied working for someone else (paying your dues), you can further develop your career to get a better job or better yet start your own business

[Dungeon Snake]

Oh for sure dude i agree that there are plenty of lazy wasteful pieces of shit in the public sector.

In the private sector, you actually have true freedom. If you're not satisfied working for someone else (paying your dues), you can further develop your career to get a better job or better yet start your own business

This is what I don't understand: Why are most people satisfied by making somebody else rich? Or by doing an unrewarding public sector job, and doing it crappily?