Open3dmm Project

[Dr Ashworth]

I'm going to check this out soon. I need to install 3DMM first tho. Anyone know where to find an easy installation of that?

[LuNine]

more people are getting into 3DMM, hopefully we can get a full version of this (or a preview) with a new rendering engine sometime next year!

[Slime]

Originally Posted by Dr Ashworth

I'm going to check this out soon. I need to install 3DMM first tho. Anyone know where to find an easy installation of that?

the modern installer installs 3dmm and all expansions with only a few clicks

https://3dmm.com/showpost.php?p=1178302&postcount=19

thats the version ive got

[Dr Ashworth]

Nice, I'll try that thanks

[ShadowFox]

Hi Jayrod, I believe we did a project together called Stranded that we never finished. Is there anyway to retrieve that trailer, re-master it and then re-release it alongside the first major update for this?

[OttotheTomato]

You can go onto the discord if you want the latest build to test

[Jayrod]

https://1drv.ms/u/s!Ag100pxGftw_kfwK...1tdGQ?e=cpNSIZ

Here is an early release of the new rendering engine. It isn't entirely complete but I wanted to give you something tangible.

Features:
- Bilinear interpolated textures
- Anti-aliasing
- Smooth per-pixel shading

Incomplete:
- MTRLs that are shaded using indexed colors will appear white atm, need to work on this!
- Scene previews in scene organizer get messed up due to the new 32-bit render targets
- Transitions are broken

Leave some comments if you find anything else out of the ordinary!

Edit: I forgot because I was rushing but also when playing movies, some stationary objects disappear. 3dmm does that as a 90s hack for better performance. I need to find where it’s doing this.

[Evil Ash]

Sweet!

I notice when you bring a model into the camera (actor, prop, or 3D word) I get a Hall of Mirrors effect as I drag it around.

Not sure if it'll affect animation/playback I didn't try.

[Evil Ash]

So I can only get it to do this while positioning a static model.

It does not happen during animating or playback, so it's probably a screen refresh/clear issue.

When I get it to look like that, opening/closing a window fixes it. Or going forward/back a frame.

[LuNine]

awesome!
are there ways to make it work with v3dmm currently?

[Jayrod]

Evil Ash: yeah you’re right I think. I’ll need to change it to refresh the entire 3D view instead of how 3dmm is doing it in sections. Nowadays this shouldn’t be an issue performance-wise.

LuNine: currently no but this is the next step after the engine is stable enough!

[Nokes]

No luck under Linux yet. I'm probably missing a library.
Is it just me or are there no bounding boxes? Anyway, great stuff!

[Jayrod]

At the moment there are no bounding boxes. It should be simple enough to add in though.

[Compcat]

Looks great. I'm liking the crispness and subtle shadow/lighting stuff. The biggest improvement I'm noticing though is that the texture warping thing is no longer a problem. Textures seem to look fine no matter where they're positioned (until clipping into the camera at which point I get the same effect as Evil Ash). Great work!

Does "new rendering engine" mean we might be able to have higher resolutions soon?

[LuNine]

I imagine it would probably be possible to use PNGs other than BMPs with limited color, hopefully.

[Jayrod]

@Compcat Yes! High resolutions are coming along with a resizable window.

@LuNine I'll be adding new file formats after compatibility for v3dmm. A new 'Open3dmm' format will be created to classify movies that use new formats.

v3dmm is the priority though. I want to make transitioning projects to Open3dmm as painless as possible and pretty much every 3dmmer uses v3dmm.

[Justin Wawrzonek]

Only thing I noticed so far on the new renderer is Gregory's default hat is white with no texture for some reason.

[LuNine]

Originally Posted by Justin Wawrzonek

Only thing I noticed so far on the new renderer is Gregory's default hat is white with no texture for some reason.

must be this:

Originally Posted by Jayrod

- MTRLs that are shaded using indexed colors will appear white atm, need to work on this!

[Jayrod]

Originally Posted by Justin Wawrzonek

Only thing I noticed so far on the new renderer is Gregory's default hat is white with no texture for some reason.

@LuNine correct. This as well as the issue regarding the viewport have been addressed. Will include with the next release!

[Justin Wawrzonek]

AH yes. Well I am a dumb.

[The Unknown Guy]

This looks interesting. So even old 3dmm clips can be played?
Would there ever be a way to insert custom made models/ textures? Good job so far!

[Phil Williamson]

that's exactly what v3dmm does for regular 3dmm, and he's said earlier in the thread that getting this to work with that is the next step

[LuNine]

if interpolation between frames gets implemented, how would things like the explosion animation work? since that's a sphere, but on the next frame it's a different model altogether

[Evil Ash]

I don't think tweening is a feature that will be added. That'd rework the foundations of how 3dmm works. It'll still be a frame by frame animator.

He said bilinear texture interpolation. Maybe you got confused.

[LuNine]

Originally Posted by Evil Ash

I don't think tweening is a feature that will be added. That'd rework the foundations of how 3dmm works. It'll still be a frame by frame animator.

He said bilinear texture interpolation. Maybe you got confused.

i know it is possible. even foone did it
also:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_gUaqGOzoA