I Can't Believe This Place Is Still Here-Marc Hughes [aka another religious thread]

[Damien Jasper]

Marc Hughes here. I'm far too old to be returning to 3D Movie maker. But I just thought I'd wander around and see what's left of the community. Seems there's pretty few websites left. Mostly it seems they were run by fanatics like me who simply grew out of it. Not that I wouldn't enjoy still doing 3D Movie maker, but I just sorta forced myself to grow up. But you people are making completely eye popping movies. When I was around, my movies Star Trek: Exodus were sorta given as a standard for SFX and integration of hand built and pre made scenes. But from the posters I've seen, that's just not good enough anymore! Everything is hand built with laser like precision. I'm very impressed. The time it must take to make some of these things.

Looking back I was very arrogant with the whole Root Pie controversy and I think Space Goat, while he missed the point of the movie was right about something. There are definately at LEAST 40 minutes that could be shaved off that movie and it would thus be much more exciting. Just the credit card coverstion and the amusment park coversation are completely pointless and are textbook examples of two little kids throwing everything they could up on the wall and calling it art. Oh well, hindsight is 20/20 and all.

I'm gonna make like a chapped lip and split now.

[Gerfro]

Hey, Marc! Awesome to see you again!

Yeah, things sure are different since Exodus and Root Pie. It's a rather exciting time, though, as we're currently cracking into 3DMM and adding textures, new fonts, and all sorts of other goodies. You never know what to expect next.

[Andres]

Originally posted by Damien Jasper
When I was around, my movies Star Trek: Exodus were sorta given as a standard for SFX and integration of hand built and pre made scenes.

Sure.

[Damien Jasper]

They were held up by a standard by SOME. No one had ever done my transporter effect before so I got a big ego and claimed to have invented it. People said they'd done it before but never had a use for it. I believe that, since it's pretty basic. But mine was the first wide released to do it.

Actually, the standard my movie was held to was for story telling. A lot of people were blown away by the tight, complex plot. They said it was much more like a real movie with lots of underlying subplots and characters with actual motives, which is what I was and still am dedicated to. I really don't like the vast majority of the movies I saw from Drugheads, Counter Attack to Men of Seattle. The movies just sort of started off and running. The characters were there and the situation was just there. Have you ever seen a movie that started that way? What if Lethal Weapon just started on the rooftop scene? You think "Who is that guy with the wild hair? Why does he want to die? Who is the black guy and why's he freaking out?" That's what I got out of most movies. It was just cut and paste stuff.

I should say mr. De La Hoz, this reverance was for a VERY brief time. About 2 weeks or so. Exodus was kind of the last of a generation that used the pre made scenes. A little while later movies where every single scene was handbuilt started bombarding the theatres and I had to struggle to keep up since I'm a pretty impatient person. I'm not saying I was worshiped (although I got several emails from a person who called themself Malcolm Montgomery-the star of Exodus. Creepy!) Just saying that all the reviews said "No other movie can top this plot! It's TOO GOOD!" But in 3Dmm, it's more about technical proficiency than story telling ability which is what I failed to realize when I put out Root Pie.

While I was around Greg Strnad told people I was the guru for Trek movies. When someone started making an Original Series movie called Boundaries, they wouldn't stop bothering me for ideas and I got endlessly pestered by Juice Box for how to make his Trek better. My tip was "Stop ripping off TNG episodes!" But I was in no way put up on the pedestal that say Robert Domke was. But like I said, I think Drugheads, while visually impressive was total shit.

Andres De La Hoz, why is your name so familiar? What movies did you make? I think you and I swapped special effects tips once or twice... Did you do Pixel? I think I pirated one of your scenes once...

Anyway, God bless everyone

-marc

[The Chinese Jew]

hey Marc, it's great to see you back!!

I still think that "Root Pie" is a classic and probably the most well written script in community history.

so r u still in film school?

[Damien Jasper]

So much for film school. I decided to be realistic. There's no set way to make it in film. Right now I'm a Salvationist, that is the Salvation Army and am also an Elementary Education major. That's just my backup plan tho. After I graduate I'm gonna save up a little more money and go to Cresmont to be a Salvation Army officer and spend my life in the serive of God and helping people.

Man, it's so strange to see me and my brother under the dead list. I remember when Dragon Films called us the Next Big Thing.

Pretty embarassing to not be in film school considering the hooplah I made about going on this very board. But I'm not lying when I say we actually were accepted and enrolled to New York Film Academy. But the real film industry is just filth and sin. I couldn't last a day there. The idea of becoming a rich Hollywood director doesn't appeal to me. I'm not a money man because Jesus teaches us "It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God." And according to Erich Fromm "Not he who has much is rich, but he who gives much." I think I've got a lot to give, or at least the desire to do so.

But I'll tell you, if they made a 3DMM too, the temptation might be too much to resist...

-marc

[The Chinese Jew]

I'm Jeff Ching/Cum-master Jizz.......hope that rings a bell.

I don't know, r u still writing scripts for fun?

and u certainly seem way more religious now than u were before.

[Morfolk]

Originally posted by The Chinese Jew
Cum-master Jizz

HAHA! I remember that!


I didn't get it back then though...

[Damien Jasper]

I have such an enormous pile of scripts from my Star Trek: Chronicles idea.

That would have been a series chronicling Malcolm Montgomery's life. I had about 25 script ideas and about 5 fully written ones. I was going to do 100 episodes. The first episode's prolouge was Deanna Troi right after the events in Exodus saying that she was going to log everything she knew about Malcolm.

In this series, we would see that Malcolm was a Star Fleet experiment. A genetic milkshake so to speak of several species to be the perfect officer. What they get is a pissed off operative who can't age a day past 13 or so (or at least look like it) and who isn't too happy with the idea of being Star Fleet property. But Starfleet implants him with a chip that will inflict severe pain when he disobeyes orders, so he's stuck. This would be the dark side of Trek.

One of the lasting story arcs was going to be him trying to find out just how many species he's made up of. But Starfleet would keep trying to hide it. The first season finale would be him finding out about his telekentic powers (moving objects with your mind) from his El Aurian genes. The climax was going to have him going totally bonkers at Star Fleet academy before finally being subdued and having those genes forcibly removed.

The BIGGEST story arc was going to be that he was considered such a lower life form by Starfleet that he isn't even given a name. Just "Lt. X". The last episode would be called "What's In A Name?" where he's finally given an actual name when he takes up position as security cheif of the Enterprise. I think this series would have explained a lot. Why did he so readily commit suicide? Why was he filled with such angst during the movie? Why does Picard say Malcom has such special training? Why does his death mean so much to him? Why is he so preoccupied with Picard telling him he did a good job?

Another arch was going to start in episode three. He gets on his first ship. It's an old, small rickety and undermanned piece of junk in the Beta Quadrant. Starfleet just sort of wants to sweep him under the rug, but keep him in the ranks just in case. He would go on to make two friends on that ship (he was going to be transporter cheif). At the end of season 2, he would be leaving that ship for good and have to say goodbye to the first and only friends he ever had. Later during that season, I had this idea of them being Dominion operatives (spys) so he would feel ultimately betrayed and his character's last festiges of decency would melt away and he no longer trusts anyone.

Later seasons would have him on a different ship every few episodes. This is where I was really going to flex my muscle. He would be used as a Federation special operative. Almost like a field agent. I was going to have an episode where he fakes his own death to try and find out more about his genetic makeup. His term would be "The Sperm Milkshake".

The last episode would have been his assignment and promotion to security cheif of the Enterprise. We would see how close he came to not making the post. The last episode would feature parts of exodus from his viewpoint. I had Deanna Troi's last log scripted

"So that's all there is about Malcolm. There is no more. He tried his hardest to overcome the demons that haunted him his whole life only to find that he had to give up his life to exorcize those demons. I know he had a heart. I didn't know him as "experiment X". He was my friend, he was a parent, he was a lover of games and he was also an orphan of sorts. He once told me he just wanted someone to tell him that he'd done good. He'd done a good job. I now say it. Good Job Malcom, you did good."

The last log was going to be inercut with his coffin floating in the ocean of Epictitus three against their first new sunset.


So as you can see, Chinese Jew, I do have a HUGE backlog of scripts for that series and several mindscrew movie ideas. I was going to turn Ear The Eye and The Arm into a truly unique spiritual sci fi mindfuck. It was really going to be something. But alas, I didn't have the technical talent to pull it off.

So to answer your question, yes I do write scripts for fun, I just turn them into short stories for my college classes!

marc

[Gorosaurus]

Just so you know, I don't plan to turn this into a faith thread or anything, but it's been forseen by many prophets that 2004 is the year of redemption to the media, and the years following will see a large increase in religious-themed multimedia. Now granted, most of the people on this board don't believe in God, let alone prophetic sight, so if you want to know more, just... PM me or something. I'm trying to remain respectful to the others here..

But anywho, to make my point short, I am currently after an Elementary Art Education major. But now I am hearing about how much people such as you and I are needed in the media, and how previously immovable doors are opening.. I'm considering going to film/animation afterall. If the current filth is your only drawback, maybe you should reconsider. But if teaching is what you wish to do with your life, by all means go for it. I think I'd love that profession as well.


Glad to see you return, though. It'd be awesome if you re-installed 3d movie maker. While no one's asking you to return to the director's seat, we could always use more freelance reviewers. Without them, there's really not much point in making the movies in the first place. So yeah, welcome back. I remember reading about your revolutionary 'transporter effect' back in the day, and it wasn't until I few years later that I actually understood what all the text meant, heh. Um.. Yeah. Later

[Damien Jasper]

Ever listen to Megadeth? Dave Mustaine says "The world doesn't want to be saved, only left alone..." Smart guy.

No one's asking me to return to the director's chair? Damn. I though I was pretty good, just misunderstood. Like I said, the whole nexus of reverence in 3DMM community is technical exellence. I was ALWAYS more about plot and character as Greg Stnad will probably tell you.

I'd LOVE to be a reivewer if anyone respects my opinions. See, there's at LEAST one day a week where I would review 5 movies totally freelance. I never do any sort of work on Sunday as per the Seventh Commandment. I'd love it, I just don't think anyone would want to hear me although I am an AP English graduate and have been told countless times how insightful and funny I can be which is what makes a good review. Maybe...I'll see what the next few weeks bring. Maybe this summer I'll review some releases.

As it is, I have little respect for the "director's chiar" position. Almost no one in the community makes a movie. They're just trying to impress everyone else with strong visuals. The secret is to make people forget they're watchin a 3D Movie folks. That's the ticket.

-marc

[Gorosaurus]

Heh, I wasn't impying that people didn't want you to direct again, I meant no one was trying to force you, seeing as you've 'moved on.'

But yeah, reviews would be more than appreciated. In fact, the 3dmm.com awards are coming up real quick, and that'd give you a good idea of what movies you might want to catch up on, and give the directors some feedback.

That said, Jeff Ching's "Remember" movies show the best of each year, setting the movies' scenes to music. That'd also be a good way to catch up.



But as for your comment of "making people forget they're watching a 3d movie," I believe tons of works today accomplish that, and very well so. Ghost in the Shell, heck... just about all of Redwampa's works fit that bill (Not to forget Spence). But visuals help very much, as the feeling can't be brought on by a moving story alone.

[Andres]

*struggles not to badmouth everyone here*

[Damien Jasper]

What's this badmouthing thing? We're just having a discussion cheif. Go ahead and badmouth, I don't care. Clearly I think you're trying to craft a "Say anything" Howard Stern type image for yourself which is sorta sad and kinda cool at the same time. But if you're going to post, make it worth my while, I'm an old man compared to most of the people here.

marc

[Gorosaurus]

Oh, and in case you didn't recognise his name, Andres is Tony Teulan's current screenname. You know, the Full Moon Studios guy.

He's a big softy these days, though

[Tony Teulan]

That's right. The truth is out at last, I'm afraid.

Not to mention the fact that Jaymond is Mickazee & that Gorosaurus is Anthony Boyle.






No. Tony Teulan is still what I go by

Do you have MSN or anything? I'd welcome you as a reviewer actually.

[Bown]

And Thomas Bown is Will Maltby.

[Demented Ferret]

Hey Marc - There are plenty of people who'd be willing to animate and direct a script if you wrote it.

Thinking about it, with your plot creation capabilities and one of the modern day animation gurus, there'd be ingredients for an epic film.

[Bown]

Holy shit, a movie written by Marc and directed by someone like Red, Aaron, Goro, or Spencer.

[Swishy III]

* laughs *
Salvo... heeheehee.







...Up the Baptists. But yeah, wow, he's back!!! I also see you found my "presumed Guilty"thread... cool stuff. Do you have an email address/MSN?

[The Chinese Jew]

Originally posted by Damien Jasper
What's this badmouthing thing?

Andres has gotten into shit with Space Goat because a long time ago in a religious debate, Andres was really quite vicious with insulting people's religious views. Andres is the most vocal athiest of the board, and well.....let's be honest.

The non believers completely PWNED the believers in a religious debate (the thread can be found in the archived threads).

I'll admit Marc, I'm quite shocked by your over religiousness, because I don't remember seeing that from you a few years ago. It's interesting that Swishy is here too, cuz he of all people gets made fun of a lot for his religious views (like not using the internet for 3 weeks to get closer to god.)

I too am an Athiest, but yeah, I guess I'll hold back from saying anything rude.

[Demented Ferret]

I'm completely 100% atheiset...But I don't go around preaching against religious people...It's their lives for goodness sake.

[The Chinese Jew]

Originally posted by Demented Ferret
I'm completely 100% atheiset...But I don't go around preaching against religious people...It's their lives for goodness sake.

That's why Andres is holding back from saying anything, and just saying like, "I'm so tempted to bad mouth, but I won't"

[Buzvonlurt]

I dont care if I get flamed for this, but I am seeing a Priest today cos I don't know whether to believe in ANY religion at the moment.. I duno.. I think may be a load of bull but I'll wait and see..

[Demented Ferret]

Originally posted by The Chinese Jew


That's why Andres is holding back from saying anything, and just saying like, "I'm so tempted to bad mouth, but I won't"

He's only doing it for my sex.