Proposition 8 supposedly passed - Page 5

Warren Wagner · 11-05-2008, 07:13 AM

So there is something that I haven't really talked about much on this board. It is probably because the last year or two I have even posted that much, I've been busy and even if I haven't been posting, I've been keeping up to date. I still really enjoy reading this forum.

As the title states, Proposition 8 to ban gay marriage seems to have passed in California today. I cannot tell you how disappointed I am. Although I cannot tell you how happy I am about Obama winning.

On June 16th, 2008 same-sex marriage was made legal in California. Which was also a very special day for me, I (living in Canada) got married as well. It was completely a coincidence that my husband and I ended up getting married on that day, we had been planning on doing it for months, whenever we got the spare money together...and that was the day. So I went to City Hall and along with some close friends, we got married. (I posted a few pictures in a thread a few months ago, but I think most people viewed it as a joke or something.)

It seems by the projections right now that Proposition 8 was passed. I am so saddened by this. There are many reason because of this. For one, I think that denying a group of people a civil right they so want and deserve is cruel enough, but when you continue to give them this right, then take it away is downright cruel.

After I my excitement about Obama winning had calmed down a bit, I began looking to see if Prop 8 had passed or not. Again...it's not a sure thing...but seems like it was passed. My first thought after reading about this was "what's going to happen to all the people who got married during this time?"

It seems that it's not set in stone yet what happens. Since it was basically worded as saying "Marriage is between a man and a woman" it would seem they want to get rid of those marriages that have already taken place. I think that is completely offensive if that happens. I am not sure if that's what will happen, I believe the courts will decide that after they know the results.

I can't even explain how after getting married, then having it taken away how I'd feel. It wouldn't be good as you can assume.

Obama is all for civil unions that are completely the same as marriages, but that brings up "Separate but Equal" which I don't like very much either. Ellen said that's like saying "You can sit over here...but not over there" and I don't like the fact that someone could say that.

So yeah...I dunno it's really early in the morning and I'm tired, but I just wanted to rant a little about this.

11-05-2008, 07:13 AM	#1
Warren Wagner Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 1,747	Proposition 8 supposedly passed So there is something that I haven't really talked about much on this board. It is probably because the last year or two I have even posted that much, I've been busy and even if I haven't been posting, I've been keeping up to date. I still really enjoy reading this forum. As the title states, Proposition 8 to ban gay marriage seems to have passed in California today. I cannot tell you how disappointed I am. Although I cannot tell you how happy I am about Obama winning. On June 16th, 2008 same-sex marriage was made legal in California. Which was also a very special day for me, I (living in Canada) got married as well. It was completely a coincidence that my husband and I ended up getting married on that day, we had been planning on doing it for months, whenever we got the spare money together...and that was the day. So I went to City Hall and along with some close friends, we got married. (I posted a few pictures in a thread a few months ago, but I think most people viewed it as a joke or something.) It seems by the projections right now that Proposition 8 was passed. I am so saddened by this. There are many reason because of this. For one, I think that denying a group of people a civil right they so want and deserve is cruel enough, but when you continue to give them this right, then take it away is downright cruel. After I my excitement about Obama winning had calmed down a bit, I began looking to see if Prop 8 had passed or not. Again...it's not a sure thing...but seems like it was passed. My first thought after reading about this was "what's going to happen to all the people who got married during this time?" It seems that it's not set in stone yet what happens. Since it was basically worded as saying "Marriage is between a man and a woman" it would seem they want to get rid of those marriages that have already taken place. I think that is completely offensive if that happens. I am not sure if that's what will happen, I believe the courts will decide that after they know the results. I can't even explain how after getting married, then having it taken away how I'd feel. It wouldn't be good as you can assume. Obama is all for civil unions that are completely the same as marriages, but that brings up "Separate but Equal" which I don't like very much either. Ellen said that's like saying "You can sit over here...but not over there" and I don't like the fact that someone could say that. So yeah...I dunno it's really early in the morning and I'm tired, but I just wanted to rant a little about this.