Proposition 8 supposedly passed - Page 2

Damage Jackal · 11-05-2008, 10:49 AM

Have you lost the ability to comprehend?

Adam Clough · 11-05-2008, 11:33 AM

Yeah, it's behind the couch somewhere, should I go and get it before Warren comes back?

Lord Trasher · 11-05-2008, 11:43 AM

attn adam clough

take a step or two back and think

when you realise you are unable to, dunk your head in a bucket of water for three minutes longer than you can hold your breath

Sinarach · 11-05-2008, 11:44 AM

Adam, what don't you understand?

This is 3dmm.com. You are not allowed to have a different opinion or outlook here.

Kale Monster · 11-05-2008, 11:54 AM

Oh my GOD I had no idea that Warren was gay. Then again, I hardly ever spoke to you. Congratulations ++ on getting married, my friend! I'm sorry it seems like it's going to be ended though. That breaks my heart.

As for Mr. Clough, I think the reason why Adam has difficulty understanding the effects of this is because as a white, middle class 18-30 year old male, the chances of him suffering from serious discrimination is low. That's not an insult, by the way.

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Originally Posted by Sinarach

Adam, what don't you understand?

This is 3dmm.com. You are not allowed to have a different opinion or outlook here.

It's good to see that you are incapable of productive input.

Adam Clough · 11-05-2008, 12:08 PM

I'm not white, I've had my share growing up, but it's basically a non issue once you're older. I just think love is the bigger picture in this situation and everyone isn't seeing forrest for all the leaves.
I'm asking questions to get some discussion going and hear what Warren has to say on it since he didn't elaborate the first time.

James McCloud · 11-05-2008, 12:12 PM

why are these sorts of things still open to being changed around? homosexuality has been recognised for thousands of years and we're still unneccesarily limiting gay people?

good job world.

edit: stop being dumb, clough. Obviously people don't stop loving each other, it's about being deemed inferior by the state. Unfit to be married like real people.

Apfigur · 11-05-2008, 01:00 PM

They'll lose the legal advantages that comes with being married.

Why the hell is keeping marriage heterosexual so important to people? Why should they even care if two of the same sex are married?

It's one thing that some church don't want gays to get married (even though I don't think a religious group should be allowed to take care of that sort of legal thing. It should just be civil), but when the state put a ban on it, it's just sad.

Good luck to you and your husband, Warren.

Andres · 11-05-2008, 01:10 PM

goddamn i love adrian pikios.

Apfigur · 11-05-2008, 01:12 PM

Yeah, seriously, what does "You are not allowed to have a different opinion or outlook here" even mean?

(I like how our avatars and sigs are kinda similar)

Howell · 11-05-2008, 01:34 PM

I'm pretty happy that it passed and there's no gay marriage there. I'm not for gay marriage.

Shawn McGravy · 11-05-2008, 01:59 PM

Zaquis · 11-05-2008, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Spencer Howell

I'm pretty happy that it passed and there's no gay marriage there. I'm not for gay marriage.

i hope you never fall in love and then simply wallow in an unhappy marriage

Rabid Dinosaur · 11-05-2008, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Cade

Oh my GOD I had no idea that Warren was gay. Then again, I hardly ever spoke to you. Congratulations ++ on getting married, my friend! I'm sorry it seems like it's going to be ended though. That breaks my heart.

Warren is in Canada. He's safe.

But on the whole... god damn. And fuck this thread. You guys are retarded.

Warren Wagner · 11-05-2008, 03:48 PM

Hey I just woke up...And yeah Cade thanks...but I'm in Canada...we're safe.

Adam I don't think you're an idiot or anything but I just don't think you can understand what this is like. I am tired of being viewed as a second class citizen in my own country. I feel much more comfortable in Canada.

You were asking if there is still discrimination in Cananda too I believe...yeah. There is discrimination everywhere. I'm not a flaming homosexual and we don't stand at a street corner making out and BLOWING EACH other. But sometimes even if we are just holding hands and walking together, people shout stuff out. About a month before we got married, we were looking for apartments together, and when the people thought we were brothers or friends they were cool, but when we wanted to look at the one bedroom apartments, they started getting really weird and disconeccted. It was obvious they didn't want us there.

So I'm not going to lose my marriage thank God. But I feel Proposition 8 still effects me very much as a person. So uh...yeah I hope you can somehow understand what I mean now man.

The Chinese Jew · 11-05-2008, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Warren Wagner

Yeah it was a really fun day.

Jeff Ching, Qaz, and Bernatrick were even there. A 3dmmer gay wedding.

That is true. Then we went to a gay bar after called Zeldas, and I had a drink called a "bitch slap".

Lord Blazer · 11-05-2008, 03:58 PM

I am very surprised by these developments. California of all places?

Phil Williamson · 11-05-2008, 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Apfigur

They'll lose the legal advantages that comes with being married.

I doubt that's true. The amendment doesn't say anything about civil unions with the same benefits as marriage. All it's likely to do is strip away the actual "marriage" title - I can't imagine California not issuing civil unions either.

And Spencer, you're not helping your reputation here as a fool by repeatedly coming into threads, saying something completely opposed to what everyone else is saying, and then not backing it up or even bothering to explain.

Allergic 2 Life · 11-05-2008, 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Warren Wagner

Hey I just woke up...And yeah Cade thanks...but I'm in Canada...we're safe.

Adam I don't think you're an idiot or anything but I just don't think you can understand what this is like. I am tired of being viewed as a second class citizen in my own country. I feel much more comfortable in Canada.

You were asking if there is still discrimination in Cananda too I believe...yeah. There is discrimination everywhere. I'm not a flaming homosexual and we don't stand at a street corner making out and BLOWING EACH other. But sometimes even if we are just holding hands and walking together, people shout stuff out. About a month before we got married, we were looking for apartments together, and when the people thought we were brothers or friends they were cool, but when we wanted to look at the one bedroom apartments, they started getting really weird and disconeccted. It was obvious they didn't want us there.

So I'm not going to lose my marriage thank God. But I feel Proposition 8 still effects me very much as a person. So uh...yeah I hope you can somehow understand what I mean now man.

Where are you living in Canada?

Bowman · 11-05-2008, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Apfigur

I don't think a religious group should be allowed to take care of that sort of legal thing. It should just be civil

I don't get that. For a lot of people, it isn't a marriage if God isn't involved. Marriage is a contract between two individuals with God as the officiator. You simply can't take God out of marriage because it is, in fact, a religious ceremony and is a religious concept.

I would say that it's the state which should have no say in marriage. A state should only be able to grant civil unions, ie a contract between two individuals with the state as officiator. A state has no authority to grant a marriage contract because it is a secular authority. No state has the authority to create a compact between men and God.

Of course the real problem here is that a lot of insurance agencies, banks, gov't programs, etc give more benefits to a contract called "marriage" than one called a "civil union" which is discriminatory and has to change.

NearHi · 11-05-2008, 05:46 PM

That does suck that it passed.
Arizona passed prop 102 for the second time which did the same thing as prop 8

Crazy Ivan · 11-05-2008, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Kyle Magocs

I am very surprised by these developments. California of all places?

The pro-campaign advertising was very misleading. They sold it as a parental issue, threatening that children would be forcibly taught things parents didn't want, etc. Scare tactics.

Warren Wagner · 11-05-2008, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Allergic 2 Life

Where are you living in Canada?

Toronto, ON

Breed · 11-05-2008, 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spencer Howell

I'm pretty happy that it passed and there's no gay marriage there. I'm not for gay marriage. I'm a thick headed ignoramus who doesn't like things he doesn't understand even though it affects me and my life none whatsoever

fixed

Evil Ash · 11-05-2008, 07:35 PM

But Tom, penises touching is icky.

11-05-2008, 11:44 AM	#29
Sinarach Banned Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 5,154	Adam, what don't you understand? This is 3dmm.com. You are not allowed to have a different opinion or outlook here.
Sinarach Banned Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 5,154

11-05-2008, 01:00 PM	#33
Apfigur Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 5,355	They'll lose the legal advantages that comes with being married. Why the hell is keeping marriage heterosexual so important to people? Why should they even care if two of the same sex are married? It's one thing that some church don't want gays to get married (even though I don't think a religious group should be allowed to take care of that sort of legal thing. It should just be civil), but when the state put a ban on it, it's just sad. Good luck to you and your husband, Warren.
Apfigur Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 5,355

11-05-2008, 01:10 PM	#34
Andres Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 17,797	goddamn i love adrian pikios.
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11-05-2008, 01:12 PM	#35
Apfigur Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 5,355	Yeah, seriously, what does "You are not allowed to have a different opinion or outlook here" even mean? (I like how our avatars and sigs are kinda similar)
Apfigur Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 5,355

11-05-2008, 01:34 PM	#36
Howell Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 2,290	I'm pretty happy that it passed and there's no gay marriage there. I'm not for gay marriage.
Howell Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 2,290

11-05-2008, 10:49 AM	#26
Damage Jackal Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 18,523	Have you lost the ability to comprehend?

11-05-2008, 11:33 AM	#27
Adam Clough Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 2,975	Yeah, it's behind the couch somewhere, should I go and get it before Warren comes back?

11-05-2008, 11:43 AM	#28
Lord Trasher Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 4,739	attn adam clough take a step or two back and think when you realise you are unable to, dunk your head in a bucket of water for three minutes longer than you can hold your breath

11-05-2008, 12:08 PM	#31
Adam Clough Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 2,975	I'm not white, I've had my share growing up, but it's basically a non issue once you're older. I just think love is the bigger picture in this situation and everyone isn't seeing forrest for all the leaves. I'm asking questions to get some discussion going and hear what Warren has to say on it since he didn't elaborate the first time.

11-05-2008, 12:12 PM	#32
James McCloud Senior Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 4,214	why are these sorts of things still open to being changed around? homosexuality has been recognised for thousands of years and we're still unneccesarily limiting gay people? good job world. edit: stop being dumb, clough. Obviously people don't stop loving each other, it's about being deemed inferior by the state. Unfit to be married like real people.

11-05-2008, 01:59 PM	#37
Shawn McGravy Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 3,787	(prepare for shitstorm) Why?

11-05-2008, 03:48 PM	#40
Warren Wagner Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 1,747	Hey I just woke up...And yeah Cade thanks...but I'm in Canada...we're safe. Adam I don't think you're an idiot or anything but I just don't think you can understand what this is like. I am tired of being viewed as a second class citizen in my own country. I feel much more comfortable in Canada. You were asking if there is still discrimination in Cananda too I believe...yeah. There is discrimination everywhere. I'm not a flaming homosexual and we don't stand at a street corner making out and BLOWING EACH other. But sometimes even if we are just holding hands and walking together, people shout stuff out. About a month before we got married, we were looking for apartments together, and when the people thought we were brothers or friends they were cool, but when we wanted to look at the one bedroom apartments, they started getting really weird and disconeccted. It was obvious they didn't want us there. So I'm not going to lose my marriage thank God. But I feel Proposition 8 still effects me very much as a person. So uh...yeah I hope you can somehow understand what I mean now man.

11-05-2008, 03:58 PM	#42
Lord Blazer Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 16,879	I am very surprised by these developments. California of all places?

11-05-2008, 05:46 PM	#46
NearHi Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 6,483	That does suck that it passed. Arizona passed prop 102 for the second time which did the same thing as prop 8
NearHi Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 6,483

11-05-2008, 07:35 PM	#50
Evil Ash Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 15,534	But Tom, penises touching is icky.
Evil Ash Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 15,534

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