The Legacy of Saradomin (Part 1) - Page 4

Red Scorpion · 10-16-2009, 10:59 AM

Who the hell deleted my comment?

Aaron Haynes · 10-16-2009, 11:05 AM

I did. You're derailing the thread by bitching about other people's comments. Stop.

Slade · 10-16-2009, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Giovanni Gazivoda

oh because on runescape saradomin is a holy god lol while zamorak is the evil god
well, i love the movie, im hoping theres part 2

I wrote out quite a lot of script for part 2, and it's a real shame because I really like the script, but no, I'm never going to finish the movie. I might come back to it here and there for my own nostalgic entertainment, but there's no way I'd ever finish it. I may release the unfinished script at some point, if anyone's interested. I didn't script part 1, like, at all, and I never realised how much better your movie becomes if you script it first.

Slade · 10-16-2009, 12:00 PM

I didn't ever see Red's comment and even so, I can totally picture it.

Red, don't you get that what you're doing is what I used to do to you? I don't recall you enjoying it that much. Just because someone talks a little childishly or whatever it doesn't instantaneously give you the right to bash them. He was giving me a compliment, for god's sake.

Dominator Dan · 10-16-2009, 04:31 PM

each to their own i guess, i tried writing scripts, then the movie doesn't turn out anything like it, you should see the script for HMIA, it's like a completely different movie, haha

Slade · 10-16-2009, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Dominator Dan

each to their own i guess, i tried writing scripts, then the movie doesn't turn out anything like it

that's... not the script's fault?

Ben Rice · 10-16-2009, 04:45 PM

I believe it's a mix of laziness and slight inertia.

Compcat · 10-16-2009, 05:20 PM

Its a bummer to me that all the huge epic movies just happen to be part 1 in a long series that will never be continued (Legacy of Saradomin, Vlarion, Final Fantasy the Ultimate Epic). Stop making series in 3dmm guys, just always assume you'll never make a sequel, but if you just happen to make a sequel though thats fine too, knowhati'msayin?

Phil Williamson · 10-16-2009, 05:29 PM

I don't think it's so much that people set out to make a series as them getting bored partway through their movies and just releasing what they've finished as "part one"

Dominator Dan · 10-16-2009, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Slade

that's... not the script's fault?

eh? who said it was, i'm just saying from personal experience that i find writing scripts is a bit of an unnecessary step, but as i said 'EACH TO THEIR OWN', implies that i'm aware you don't FEEL THAT WAY.

WHATEVER YEAH, it's not laziness at all, it's just that as i make things i get amazing ideas, the original script didn't have a DOLPHIN IN IT. meanies.

Pizza The Hut · 10-16-2009, 06:47 PM

Don't worry, Dan, I understand.

I also believe it's totally okay if the final product deviates, even if heavily, from the original script. However, where I disagree with you, Dan, is the concept that THAT alone voids the entire purpose of a script. It's a very, very good idea to get the entire movie written out, planned out, something'd out, even if it changes. Change is a good thing, progression is natural, but if you don't have a starting point it'll probably suck.

Slade · 10-16-2009, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Phil Williamson

I don't think it's so much that people set out to make a series as them getting bored partway through their movies and just releasing what they've finished as "part one"

Not in my case, this was going to be a series from day one. No particular reason, it just was. I guess I wanted it to have those cliffhanger endings and narrative jumps between films. The sad fact is, I would continue with LoS 2 if I thought there was an interested enough community to release it to. 3dmm had already begun its decline before LoS was in the can. The 3dmm side of 3dmm.com is in a miserable state as it is, and that's only going to get worse.

Slade · 10-16-2009, 07:48 PM

And that's why the following is SILLY

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Originally Posted by Compcat

Its a bummer to me that all the huge epic movies just happen to be part 1 in a long series that will never be continued (Legacy of Saradomin, Vlarion, Final Fantasy the Ultimate Epic). Stop making series in 3dmm guys, just always assume you'll never make a sequel, but if you just happen to make a sequel though thats fine too, knowhati'msayin?

Compcat · 10-16-2009, 07:48 PM

Vlarion was obviously meant to be a series too. Although since they were gonna be remakes there aren't many ways to get around doing it like that.

Its not silly, if you would've just made a movie instead of a series then it wouldn't of been unfinished when you ran out of steam (and it sounds like you knew you were going to).

Slade · 10-16-2009, 07:50 PM

The story I'd written was far too wide to fit into one standard-length film. I assume that was the same case for Aaron, too.

I don't wanna sound like a cock with this, Compcat, but I'll make whatever movies I like, thanks. I understand the way it's presented and how it is basically a lot of broken promises and whatnot, but it was the story I wanted to tell. I'm just glad I finished part 1 at all, considering how often "big" movies end up unfinished.

Like... I'm sorry if you're in some way 'let down' by another ambitious 3dmm project cut short, but, it's not like I'm gleefully leaping onto the retired bench. I would love to carry on with the series. But there's no way in shitting hell I'm making another one of those when 3dmm is in the state that it's in today.

EDIT: But yeah, I do appreciate your interest and hunger for more, don't get me wrong.

Compcat · 10-16-2009, 07:54 PM

Don't get me wrong man, I loved your movie, thats why I think its kind of a shame that the series is unfinished. But I mean, all series are gonna be unfinished, hell its difficult to get one fuckin movie finished with 3dmm...

Slade · 10-16-2009, 07:58 PM

Yeah, it is a shame. I'm still "in my prime", if you wanna put it like that. Sounds pretty arrogant though. And a little dirty.

I'm just really, really bad at forming new ideas from nothing. That's why I'd have more fun working on LoS 2 than starting something else just because.

Phil Williamson · 10-16-2009, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Slade

Not in my case, this was going to be a series from day one. No particular reason, it just was. I guess I wanted it to have those cliffhanger endings and narrative jumps between films. The sad fact is, I would continue with LoS 2 if I thought there was an interested enough community to release it to. 3dmm had already begun its decline before LoS was in the can. The 3dmm side of 3dmm.com is in a miserable state as it is, and that's only going to get worse.

Talk about a catch-22. Movie releases create interest (and keep in mind that even many of us who have long moved beyond using 3dmm still watch movies). And these days you can promote your movies beyond the community anyway via YouTube.

Slade · 10-16-2009, 08:31 PM

Yeah but Youtube is full of morons that like posting "this song makes me cry

". Plus, as we've established, the name 'Saradomin' is kinda taken. I don't really want to publish it anywhere else, it was made from the 3dmm community, for the 3dmm community, and that's where I think it should stay. It's only one quarter of a complete story, and what has been released is rough and sloppy in areas.

I'd agree with what you said if this were a series with shorter episodes, but these are all big big films that require so much effort and to be blunt, at this point, it's not worth it. It's fun to make - bringing your vision to life and all the rest - but half the fun is in thinking "hohooo shit they're gonna love that". It's not even that popular a genre on 3dmm.com.

Basically all I'm trying to say is; at the end of the day, if the 3dmm side of the board ever shows signs of increased activity or interest again, then I'll consider it.

Pizza The Hut · 10-16-2009, 08:50 PM

Yeah this is a chicken or the egg thing, truly. I can understand Chippy's point of view - it's tough to go charging in thinking 'this movie will increase interest in 3dmm!! yay!" and have THAT be your main motivator, as opposed to "this WILL be seen and loved by many", that is more comforting.

Phil Williamson · 10-16-2009, 09:05 PM

what if Rosa Parks had thought like that??

Compcat · 10-16-2009, 09:36 PM

The thing is though, 3dmm will never break out of that "15 year old children's video game" status. No matter how beautiful the art we make with it can be, it will still, deep down, feel like we are wasting our time, even if it does serve as good practice for the other "serious" creative fields we might be interested in. I think the appreciation of others towards your work can only go so far to motivate, and that other strange motivator for creative stuff will never be fully there for 3dmm, since its so difficult to really take it seriously.

Now, I just want to say Slade, you've already made a classic and that is a huge feat. Andres has Satanik, Aaron has Vlarion, you got LoS, if you want to retire from 3dmm thats just fine. Every once in a while I get motivation to work on this idea I've had for a while so that I can make my classic, y'know, so just sayin yeah LoS is still a huge motivator. Even though I highly doubt I'll ever even get a significant chunk of it done, still that motivation to have at least one great movie is there.

I don't even know what my point of this post was, but I still think its kind of cool so I'm just going to hit reply.

Tuna Hematoma · 10-16-2009, 09:48 PM

and I got Ding Dong and Dum Dum.

I don't feel like I'm wasting time when I make movies. It's just some random fun.

Pizza The Hut · 10-16-2009, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Compcat

I don't even know what my point of this post was, but I still think its kind of cool so I'm just going to hit reply.

what if Rosa Parks had thought like that??

Dominator Dan · 10-16-2009, 10:38 PM

* successfully released a trilogy in one year * :3

10-16-2009, 10:59 AM	#76
Red Scorpion Banned Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 4,229	Who the hell deleted my comment?
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10-16-2009, 12:00 PM	#79
Slade Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 9,390	I didn't ever see Red's comment and even so, I can totally picture it. Red, don't you get that what you're doing is what I used to do to you? I don't recall you enjoying it that much. Just because someone talks a little childishly or whatever it doesn't instantaneously give you the right to bash them. He was giving me a compliment, for god's sake.
Slade Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 9,390

10-16-2009, 04:45 PM	#82
Ben Rice Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 10,220	I believe it's a mix of laziness and slight inertia.
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10-16-2009, 05:20 PM	#83
Compcat Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 8,810	Its a bummer to me that all the huge epic movies just happen to be part 1 in a long series that will never be continued (Legacy of Saradomin, Vlarion, Final Fantasy the Ultimate Epic). Stop making series in 3dmm guys, just always assume you'll never make a sequel, but if you just happen to make a sequel though thats fine too, knowhati'msayin?
Compcat Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 8,810

10-16-2009, 07:48 PM	#89
Compcat Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 8,810	Vlarion was obviously meant to be a series too. Although since they were gonna be remakes there aren't many ways to get around doing it like that. Its not silly, if you would've just made a movie instead of a series then it wouldn't of been unfinished when you ran out of steam (and it sounds like you knew you were going to).
Compcat Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 8,810

10-16-2009, 11:05 AM	#77
Aaron Haynes Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 15,125	I did. You're derailing the thread by bitching about other people's comments. Stop.

10-16-2009, 04:31 PM	#80
Dominator Dan Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 11,564	each to their own i guess, i tried writing scripts, then the movie doesn't turn out anything like it, you should see the script for HMIA, it's like a completely different movie, haha

10-16-2009, 05:29 PM	#84
Phil Williamson Super Moderator Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 16,900	I don't think it's so much that people set out to make a series as them getting bored partway through their movies and just releasing what they've finished as "part one"

10-16-2009, 06:47 PM	#86
Pizza The Hut Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 10,633	Don't worry, Dan, I understand. I also believe it's totally okay if the final product deviates, even if heavily, from the original script. However, where I disagree with you, Dan, is the concept that THAT alone voids the entire purpose of a script. It's a very, very good idea to get the entire movie written out, planned out, something'd out, even if it changes. Change is a good thing, progression is natural, but if you don't have a starting point it'll probably suck.

10-16-2009, 07:50 PM	#90
Slade Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 9,390	The story I'd written was far too wide to fit into one standard-length film. I assume that was the same case for Aaron, too. I don't wanna sound like a cock with this, Compcat, but I'll make whatever movies I like, thanks. I understand the way it's presented and how it is basically a lot of broken promises and whatnot, but it was the story I wanted to tell. I'm just glad I finished part 1 at all, considering how often "big" movies end up unfinished. Like... I'm sorry if you're in some way 'let down' by another ambitious 3dmm project cut short, but, it's not like I'm gleefully leaping onto the retired bench. I would love to carry on with the series. But there's no way in shitting hell I'm making another one of those when 3dmm is in the state that it's in today. EDIT: But yeah, I do appreciate your interest and hunger for more, don't get me wrong.
Slade Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 9,390

10-16-2009, 07:54 PM	#91
Compcat Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 8,810	Don't get me wrong man, I loved your movie, thats why I think its kind of a shame that the series is unfinished. But I mean, all series are gonna be unfinished, hell its difficult to get one fuckin movie finished with 3dmm...
Compcat Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 8,810

10-16-2009, 07:58 PM	#92
Slade Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 9,390	Yeah, it is a shame. I'm still "in my prime", if you wanna put it like that. Sounds pretty arrogant though. And a little dirty. I'm just really, really bad at forming new ideas from nothing. That's why I'd have more fun working on LoS 2 than starting something else just because.
Slade Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 9,390

10-16-2009, 08:31 PM	#94
Slade Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 9,390	Yeah but Youtube is full of morons that like posting "this song makes me cry ". Plus, as we've established, the name 'Saradomin' is kinda taken. I don't really want to publish it anywhere else, it was made from the 3dmm community, for the 3dmm community, and that's where I think it should stay. It's only one quarter of a complete story, and what has been released is rough and sloppy in areas. I'd agree with what you said if this were a series with shorter episodes, but these are all big big films that require so much effort and to be blunt, at this point, it's not worth it. It's fun to make - bringing your vision to life and all the rest - but half the fun is in thinking "hohooo shit they're gonna love that". It's not even that popular a genre on 3dmm.com. Basically all I'm trying to say is; at the end of the day, if the 3dmm side of the board ever shows signs of increased activity or interest again, then I'll consider it.
Slade Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 9,390

10-16-2009, 08:50 PM	#95
Pizza The Hut Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 10,633	Yeah this is a chicken or the egg thing, truly. I can understand Chippy's point of view - it's tough to go charging in thinking 'this movie will increase interest in 3dmm!! yay!" and have THAT be your main motivator, as opposed to "this WILL be seen and loved by many", that is more comforting.

10-16-2009, 09:05 PM	#96
Phil Williamson Super Moderator Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 16,900	what if Rosa Parks had thought like that??

10-16-2009, 09:36 PM	#97
Compcat Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 8,810	The thing is though, 3dmm will never break out of that "15 year old children's video game" status. No matter how beautiful the art we make with it can be, it will still, deep down, feel like we are wasting our time, even if it does serve as good practice for the other "serious" creative fields we might be interested in. I think the appreciation of others towards your work can only go so far to motivate, and that other strange motivator for creative stuff will never be fully there for 3dmm, since its so difficult to really take it seriously. Now, I just want to say Slade, you've already made a classic and that is a huge feat. Andres has Satanik, Aaron has Vlarion, you got LoS, if you want to retire from 3dmm thats just fine. Every once in a while I get motivation to work on this idea I've had for a while so that I can make my classic, y'know, so just sayin yeah LoS is still a huge motivator. Even though I highly doubt I'll ever even get a significant chunk of it done, still that motivation to have at least one great movie is there. I don't even know what my point of this post was, but I still think its kind of cool so I'm just going to hit reply.
Compcat Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 8,810

10-16-2009, 09:48 PM	#98
Tuna Hematoma Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 10,055	and I got Ding Dong and Dum Dum. I don't feel like I'm wasting time when I make movies. It's just some random fun.

10-16-2009, 10:38 PM	#100
Dominator Dan Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 11,564	* successfully released a trilogy in one year * :3