Mario Saga 2 - Page 2

HMC · 06-05-2007, 11:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gorosaurus

What's most interesting to me is that this movie does not age from one scene to the next. The only thing I caught on to was that in some later scenes, characters might have hands made of individual shapes, whereas earlier in the sequence we saw them with your fingerdings expansion. So I'd say you don't work in order, but I could be wrong. Beyond nuances like that, I'm stumped to find any inconsistancies. Either you are not including a lot of scenes you started years ago (Which I know of a few that are missing), or you've retraced them all to make it one big, seamless style. Very impressive, I can not boast the same for myself!

Yeah, I ended up going back a lot and updating some of the scenes. Most of the Mario and Toad scene was created pre-V3DMM, and were altered after I made the switch (mostly just replacing a handmade Mario head with the single object).

Also, thanks a ton, Goro, for all the comments. I'm very glad you enjoyed what you saw.

Mabdog · 03:46 AM

the fight scene was fuckin amazing, meng.

Brossy · 06-06-2007, 03:55 AM

Just finished watching. There wasn't really all that much for the time spent on it! I was kinda dissapointed!

The Merlitar side scrolling game was awesome, the 8 bit mario scene was pretty cool.

The city was amazing, the reflection looked great.

The best thing about this was just the 'style'. The sort of half crossed cartoon with 3mm and new colours. Was interesting to see.

But yeah, I dunno, there's not that much to comment on as there isn't really all that much actual 'movie'.

What was there was great, but I just wish there was more, or it was in some sort of watchable format.

Actually, my other favourite bit, was Merlitar getting hit on the roof. That looked fantastic.

Michael Sandford · 06-06-2007, 09:16 AM

HMC you are the master of colour and form.
ESPECIALLY in 3dmm!

definatly some of the best work in 3dmm EVER.
and I hope this movie doesn't result in your retirement.

Sarat · 06-06-2007, 03:51 PM

Awesome dude !!! i have never seen such a detailed scenery in 3dmm dude.

Klown · 06-06-2007, 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brossy

Just finished watching. There wasn't really all that much for the time spent on it! I was kinda dissapointed!

This pretty much sums it up. I liked the style but damn did it take a long time for such a small amount of movie.

Pogo · 06-06-2007, 06:13 PM

Comments per vmm

#1: It's been said before, and it'll be said many times after, but that's because it's fucking true. HMC, you have easily the best grasp of colour and lighting in the community. From the light blues of the snowy mountains to the orange glow of the sun shining off the helicopter, to the sense of depth on the more distant mountains, everything looks perfectly integrated into the style of the movie, and while distant from almost anything in Nintendo's Mario universe, remains perfectly recognisable, so that when Angry Sun pops up, he doesn't seem out of place, even when 500 points appear when he destroys the helicopter. Some very innovative use of graphical tricks and effects as well, from the motion blur of the helicopter's propellor, to the see-through reflection in the window, to tiny touches such as the shine on Shyguy's telescope in scene 14

#2: I HIGHLY DOUBT YOU CAN READ THIS SMALL TEXT, BUT IF BY SOME CHANCE YOU ACTUALLY ARE, THEN YOU ARE A FAGGOT. HAHA. WAY TO GO FAGGOT. MAN, THIS IS GAY.
MAN, HOW DOES THE MUSHROOM PRESS MANAGE TO PRINT IN SUCH A SMALL SIZE? IT'S GONNA BLIND A BUNCH OF PEOPLE, THAT MY FRIEND, DOES NOT ENSURE SUCCESS. I WOULD LIKE TO NOTE THAT THIS IS ANNOYING, JUST MAKING TEXT FOR THIS STUPID THING NO ONE WILL READ. BUT YOU'RE READING IT. . . . 0_o
Y'KNOW WHAT? FUCK THIS. I'M JUST GONNA PASTE THE SAME TEXT OVER AND OVER. YOU CAN STOP READING NOW

#3: Heheh. My first thought was "Goddammit, EVERYONE uses that 7th Guest music," but I gave it my full approval when it turned into a DD homage

I like how you turned Mario's "Skid" frame into a Wall jump too.

#4: Remember everything I said about light and colour in #1? That applies here too. I'll multiply it here though for the sheer attention to detail and general awesomeness, and just for the little touches like making the lamp posts ? blocks, and the copy of Mario Is Missing in the window. AND THE FUCKING REFLECTION GODDAMN YOU THAT IS AMAZING <3

#5: and THIS is where HMC's storytelling side comes in. The awesome scenery and colours still stand, but now they're actually in the context of a narrative that actually plays out long enough for the viewer to get engaged.
It's saying a lot that It works without sound or music, and I never actually found myself skipping scenes. Merlitar
And OH GOD SCENE 106. Never ever EVER have I seen such perfect still frame in 3dmm. And the shot of Merlitar at the window, the shadows of the blind on his face. Excellent. The Night time shots were brilliant too, and....fuck it. I'm gushing.

#6: Heheheh. I like Mario's disguise

Nice Koopa Troopa too.

#7: Goddammit. What IS that music. It's awesome. And I'm a sucker for 2D Sprite animation so I'm going to like this by default.

HMC · 06-06-2007, 06:39 PM

Thanks, Pogo. BTW, that music is from Lyle in Cube Sector, IIRC.

Jim Raynor · 06-06-2007, 09:04 PM

Downloading now. It seems my internet was very screwed up yesterday, so nothing worked. Looks very promising.

03:42 PM

First, it was Rayman: Level 1 that got nuked, now it's Mario Saga 2. Shall Ninja Gaiden 2 surely be next? All the community has to look forward to now is the Omega Project (I guess I'm a "bastard" anyway I put it

) and the longest PAM in the history of 3DMM.

Now, to the movie itself. There was beautiful work going on here. I've always known you to be good at this kind of stuff. You're really good at this artistry sort of thing. I, for one, could never be bothered to use custom gradients and other scene pallets, nor attempt to figure out how to use them. However, you sure put them to fine use here.

Despite your abilities as an artist, however, it's like you said: "It simply wasn't in me to string all my crazy ambitions into a coherent storyline...." I guess you can make fine pictures and animations, but as far as plots go, forget about it.

You know, for some whack reason, this reminded me a lot of Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door and Super Paper Mario, and I'm not talking about those 2D scenes you threw in.

Jim Raynor · 03:20 PM

What? There is no reason to edit this post anymore except to put a smiley? YOU BASTARD.

Jim Raynor · 06-08-2007, 08:29 PM

You convincing bastard, HMC! I actually thought that water reflection took some effort to make! I see what you did there. Pretty good, regardless.

09:14 PM

He probably had to put effort into the expansion, anyway.

HMC · 06-08-2007, 09:37 PM

The reflection part was actually pretty easy. I just extruded the model and then flipped it. I then edited an existing water texture in Photoshop and put it in the middle.

06-08-2007, 09:44 PM

I figured you flipped the model to do that. What I meant was the rest of it.

Michael Sandford · 06-14-2007, 12:00 PM

Just out of personal interest.
HMC, what program did you use to make that mushroom street prop.

HMC · 06-14-2007, 01:13 PM

Blender

Shawn McGravy · 06-15-2007, 03:24 PM

I want to watch this.

Dan Jacquier · 06-22-2007, 04:24 AM

omg i have been waiting for this movie for a long time i loved the first one i will download this right away

06-22-2007, 04:31 AM

Don't get your hopes up. It's unfinished.

Cowtacular Spleen · 06-26-2007, 12:08 AM

Ah, victim of the "unfinished" parasite that patiently waits inside every epic 3dmm movie, feeding off the good vibes and amazing animation advances, until it drains all life and feeling out of the host making it. Tis a shame. A very common occurance that plagues this accursed program. I would watch this, but I'd have to redownload 3dmm and v3dmm, and last time neither were working, which is why I deleted them. I will watch, though. Mark my words, it will be veiwed.

Adam Clough · 06-28-2007, 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tuna Hematoma

anyone youtube this? my v3dmm doesn't work when there's lots of models and whatever.

I can watch it, but it's lag city. So yeah, ditto.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brossy

Seeing as though there is no music syncing, I can watch this. Stupid new computer and its windows 98 speed 3dmm...

Dude, play button trick. Just click and hold the play button with the mouse and you get XP speed.

Sonic Films · 07-07-2007, 12:53 AM

I like the 1st Mario Saga,so I cant wate for the 2nd one to be compleat.

http://cgimonkey.googlepages.com/home

07-07-2007, 01:55 AM

Look at the first post. It's unfinished, and always will be.

Aaron Haynes · 02-09-2008, 01:50 AM

Reviewed. I had reservations about it the first time I watched, but didn't realize just how many.

Jaw-droppingly beautiful with some great individual moments, though.

06-06-2007, 03:38 AM	#27
Mabdog Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 5,670	the fight scene was fuckin amazing, meng.
Mabdog Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 5,670	Last edited by Mabdog : 06-06-2007 at 03:46 AM. Reason: needed more MENG!

06-06-2007, 03:55 AM	#28
Brossy Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 3,376	Just finished watching. There wasn't really all that much for the time spent on it! I was kinda dissapointed! The Merlitar side scrolling game was awesome, the 8 bit mario scene was pretty cool. The city was amazing, the reflection looked great. The best thing about this was just the 'style'. The sort of half crossed cartoon with 3mm and new colours. Was interesting to see. But yeah, I dunno, there's not that much to comment on as there isn't really all that much actual 'movie'. What was there was great, but I just wish there was more, or it was in some sort of watchable format. Actually, my other favourite bit, was Merlitar getting hit on the roof. That looked fantastic.
Brossy Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 3,376

06-06-2007, 09:16 AM	#29
Michael Sandford Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 919	HMC you are the master of colour and form. ESPECIALLY in 3dmm! definatly some of the best work in 3dmm EVER. and I hope this movie doesn't result in your retirement.
Michael Sandford Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 919

06-06-2007, 03:51 PM	#30
Sarat Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 246	Awesome dude !!! i have never seen such a detailed scenery in 3dmm dude.
Sarat Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 246

06-06-2007, 06:13 PM	#32
Pogo Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 3,228	Comments per vmm #1: It's been said before, and it'll be said many times after, but that's because it's fucking true. HMC, you have easily the best grasp of colour and lighting in the community. From the light blues of the snowy mountains to the orange glow of the sun shining off the helicopter, to the sense of depth on the more distant mountains, everything looks perfectly integrated into the style of the movie, and while distant from almost anything in Nintendo's Mario universe, remains perfectly recognisable, so that when Angry Sun pops up, he doesn't seem out of place, even when 500 points appear when he destroys the helicopter. Some very innovative use of graphical tricks and effects as well, from the motion blur of the helicopter's propellor, to the see-through reflection in the window, to tiny touches such as the shine on Shyguy's telescope in scene 14 #2: I HIGHLY DOUBT YOU CAN READ THIS SMALL TEXT, BUT IF BY SOME CHANCE YOU ACTUALLY ARE, THEN YOU ARE A FAGGOT. HAHA. WAY TO GO FAGGOT. MAN, THIS IS GAY. MAN, HOW DOES THE MUSHROOM PRESS MANAGE TO PRINT IN SUCH A SMALL SIZE? IT'S GONNA BLIND A BUNCH OF PEOPLE, THAT MY FRIEND, DOES NOT ENSURE SUCCESS. I WOULD LIKE TO NOTE THAT THIS IS ANNOYING, JUST MAKING TEXT FOR THIS STUPID THING NO ONE WILL READ. BUT YOU'RE READING IT. . . . 0_o Y'KNOW WHAT? FUCK THIS. I'M JUST GONNA PASTE THE SAME TEXT OVER AND OVER. YOU CAN STOP READING NOW #3: Heheh. My first thought was "Goddammit, EVERYONE uses that 7th Guest music," but I gave it my full approval when it turned into a DD homage I like how you turned Mario's "Skid" frame into a Wall jump too. #4: Remember everything I said about light and colour in #1? That applies here too. I'll multiply it here though for the sheer attention to detail and general awesomeness, and just for the little touches like making the lamp posts ? blocks, and the copy of Mario Is Missing in the window. AND THE FUCKING REFLECTION GODDAMN YOU THAT IS AMAZING <3 #5: and THIS is where HMC's storytelling side comes in. The awesome scenery and colours still stand, but now they're actually in the context of a narrative that actually plays out long enough for the viewer to get engaged. It's saying a lot that It works without sound or music, and I never actually found myself skipping scenes. Merlitar And OH GOD SCENE 106. Never ever EVER have I seen such perfect still frame in 3dmm. And the shot of Merlitar at the window, the shadows of the blind on his face. Excellent. The Night time shots were brilliant too, and....fuck it. I'm gushing. #6: Heheheh. I like Mario's disguise Nice Koopa Troopa too. #7: Goddammit. What IS that music. It's awesome. And I'm a sucker for 2D Sprite animation so I'm going to like this by default.
Pogo Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 3,228

06-06-2007, 06:39 PM	#33
HMC Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 8,715	Thanks, Pogo. BTW, that music is from Lyle in Cube Sector, IIRC.
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06-06-2007, 09:04 PM	#34
Jim Raynor Banned Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,400	Downloading now. It seems my internet was very screwed up yesterday, so nothing worked. Looks very promising.
Jim Raynor Banned Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,400

06-07-2007, 01:50 PM	#35
Manny Cav Posts: n/a	First, it was Rayman: Level 1 that got nuked, now it's Mario Saga 2. Shall Ninja Gaiden 2 surely be next? All the community has to look forward to now is the Omega Project (I guess I'm a "bastard" anyway I put it ) and the longest PAM in the history of 3DMM. Now, to the movie itself. There was beautiful work going on here. I've always known you to be good at this kind of stuff. You're really good at this artistry sort of thing. I, for one, could never be bothered to use custom gradients and other scene pallets, nor attempt to figure out how to use them. However, you sure put them to fine use here. Despite your abilities as an artist, however, it's like you said: "It simply wasn't in me to string all my crazy ambitions into a coherent storyline...." I guess you can make fine pictures and animations, but as far as plots go, forget about it. You know, for some whack reason, this reminded me a lot of Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door and Super Paper Mario, and I'm not talking about those 2D scenes you threw in.
Manny Cav Posts: n/a	Last edited by Manny Cav : 06-09-2007 at 03:42 PM. Reason: I give up.

06-07-2007, 10:27 PM	#36
Jim Raynor Banned Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,400	What? There is no reason to edit this post anymore except to put a smiley? YOU BASTARD.
Jim Raynor Banned Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,400	Last edited by Jim Raynor : 06-09-2007 at 03:20 PM. Reason: Manny Cav had to be a-CUE LAUGHING SMILEY

06-08-2007, 08:29 PM	#37
Jim Raynor Banned Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,400	You convincing bastard, HMC! I actually thought that water reflection took some effort to make! I see what you did there. Pretty good, regardless.
Jim Raynor Banned Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,400

06-08-2007, 09:12 PM	#38
Manny Cav Posts: n/a	He probably had to put effort into the expansion, anyway.
Manny Cav Posts: n/a	Last edited by Manny Cav : 06-08-2007 at 09:14 PM. Reason: Spoilered more of it.

06-08-2007, 09:37 PM	#39
HMC Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 8,715	The reflection part was actually pretty easy. I just extruded the model and then flipped it. I then edited an existing water texture in Photoshop and put it in the middle.
HMC Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 8,715

06-08-2007, 09:44 PM	#40
Manny Cav Posts: n/a	I figured you flipped the model to do that. What I meant was the rest of it.
Manny Cav Posts: n/a

06-14-2007, 12:00 PM	#41
Michael Sandford Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 919	Just out of personal interest. HMC, what program did you use to make that mushroom street prop.
Michael Sandford Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 919

06-14-2007, 01:13 PM	#42
HMC Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 8,715	Blender
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06-15-2007, 03:24 PM	#43
Shawn McGravy Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 3,787	I want to watch this.

06-22-2007, 04:24 AM	#44
Dan Jacquier Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 41	omg i have been waiting for this movie for a long time i loved the first one i will download this right away
Dan Jacquier Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 41

06-22-2007, 04:31 AM	#45
Manny Cav Posts: n/a	Don't get your hopes up. It's unfinished.
Manny Cav Posts: n/a

06-26-2007, 12:08 AM	#46
Cowtacular Spleen Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 2,217	Ah, victim of the "unfinished" parasite that patiently waits inside every epic 3dmm movie, feeding off the good vibes and amazing animation advances, until it drains all life and feeling out of the host making it. Tis a shame. A very common occurance that plagues this accursed program. I would watch this, but I'd have to redownload 3dmm and v3dmm, and last time neither were working, which is why I deleted them. I will watch, though. Mark my words, it will be veiwed.

07-07-2007, 12:53 AM	#48
Sonic Films Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 18	I like the 1st Mario Saga,so I cant wate for the 2nd one to be compleat. http://cgimonkey.googlepages.com/home
Sonic Films Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 18

07-07-2007, 01:55 AM	#49
Manny Cav Posts: n/a	Look at the first post. It's unfinished, and always will be.
Manny Cav Posts: n/a

02-09-2008, 01:50 AM	#50
Aaron Haynes Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 15,125	Reviewed. I had reservations about it the first time I watched, but didn't realize just how many. Jaw-droppingly beautiful with some great individual moments, though.