Kikavex

Kikavex · 03:02 PM

Not really needing an explanation. look at the plot summary.
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Slade · 08-28-2006, 08:04 PM

What's.. with this Vlarion ripoff obsession lately?

Video Game Guy · 08-28-2006, 09:20 PM

i dono i just like aarons work

Denny Betterman · 08-29-2006, 01:11 AM

Don't we all

HMC · 08-29-2006, 01:25 AM

If you like his old stuff you'll really like his stuff from within the last three years.

Video Game Guy · 08-29-2006, 01:57 AM

yeah ive seen almost or i think everything aaron has made

Denny Betterman · 08-29-2006, 05:12 AM

I douuuubt iiiiit

haha, I wonder if that Attack of the Giant TMNT was made beFORE or AFTER v3dmm...if Before it might not even still work...

Jim Raynor · 09-05-2006, 06:04 PM

Is this supposed to stop after 2 scenes?

Slade · 09-05-2006, 06:23 PM

Yes, Jim. He designed it like that. It's an awesome feature.

Orcus · 09-05-2006, 08:04 PM

What's the point of remaking a fight scene?

Pogo · 09-05-2006, 11:53 PM

The summary then....

And that's all the weather.

Slade · 09-06-2006, 01:13 AM

Ahahahahaha! I hope you all understand this. It's awesome.

Video Game Guy · 09-10-2006, 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pogo

The summary then....

And that's all the weather.

hehe nice .gif

Slade · 09-10-2006, 09:35 PM

Well I actually took the time to watch this, and it was as bad as I expected.

But uh... Full Cure heals Jack for 99999, and then when Life's cast on him, it says like.. '999999999'. WTF.

Video Game Guy · 09-10-2006, 11:55 PM

didnt really think about the life they got back, i,.... yes, it dosnt make sence.

Raz · 09-24-2006, 04:32 AM

I think Jack's hiding something if the amount of health he has can increase and decrease at will. Has he been honest with the rest of his party? I anxiously await the next installment!

Aaron Haynes · 09-24-2006, 06:21 AM

I seem to recall having a general idea of what the characters' HP values were, but didn't really think about that not being clear to the audience.

Dustin Guest · 09-24-2006, 03:22 PM

Okay, I have a question. Does anyone find these turn-based fight scenes exciting? I mean really. Yeah, super to watch in a game when you're PARTICIPATING in it, but this is like watching a friend play and RPG. Is that EVER fun?

Pirate Balloon · 09-24-2006, 03:27 PM

Thats why i dont watch these kinda movies.

Slade · 09-24-2006, 04:43 PM

I know what you mean, Dustin. I can't even watch the fight scenes in the old Vlarions anymore. But back in the day, it was exciting to watch because of the resemblance, and to see what clever spells and cool effects could be done.

But now since any movie that uses turn-based fights is greatly dated, there's nothing impressive about them.

Dustin Guest · 09-24-2006, 04:56 PM

LOL Dude, I was HERE in said "day". They sucked then, too!

Slade · 09-24-2006, 05:52 PM

Haha no I know that.

Aaron Haynes · 09-24-2006, 07:20 PM

As if it wasn't obvious from the series itself, what I really wanted to do in 1999 was make an RPG, but all I had was 3DMM, and I was fourteen.

The battles themselves entertained me purely as a kind of animation sandbox. Most of the effects animation I learned how to do, I learned from the battle scenes in Vlarion. I am keenly aware that they have very little, if any, dramatic tension, and are only effective at all if you can wrap your head around the RPG construct and get involved in the movie purely from that angle. That's why I haven't done one since 2002.

Raz · 09-24-2006, 07:33 PM

Well, your more recent Vlarion had very well done battles so i guess it was just a learning curve or something.

Aaron Haynes · 09-24-2006, 07:45 PM

I'd say it was more a difference in priorities. Take a look at Alternate Vlarion 3 and then look at Redux, about a year and a half later. Completely different styles, but AV3, at its best visually, is the equal or better of almost anything I did in Redux, which surprises people to this day. Redux just happened to be where I first tried using 3DMM for that kind of movie.

Not that there wasn't a learning curve, granted. But V1 2006 was also me doing the same type of film as in 1999, with different cinematic goals. I also knew that in 1999, there was no way I could make a full cinematic experience on that scale. Could you imagine just trying to find voice actors of the caliber that are in Vlarion 1, in 1999? 12-15 mature voices? Apart from MOS, nothing from that time period was even close. Most of the community was probably pre-puberty in those days.

So, a combination of skill level, cinematic goals, and better tools with the expansion packs and v3dmm.

08-28-2006, 08:04 PM	#2
Slade Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 9,390	What's.. with this Vlarion ripoff obsession lately?
Slade Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 9,390

08-29-2006, 01:25 AM	#5
HMC Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 8,715	If you like his old stuff you'll really like his stuff from within the last three years.
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09-05-2006, 06:04 PM	#8
Jim Raynor Banned Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,400	Is this supposed to stop after 2 scenes?
Jim Raynor Banned Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,400

09-05-2006, 06:23 PM	#9
Slade Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 9,390	Yes, Jim. He designed it like that. It's an awesome feature.
Slade Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 9,390

09-05-2006, 08:04 PM	#10
Orcus Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 8,146	What's the point of remaking a fight scene?
Orcus Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 8,146

08-28-2006, 09:20 PM	#3
Video Game Guy Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 1,231	i dono i just like aarons work

08-29-2006, 01:11 AM	#4
Denny Betterman Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 3,531	Don't we all

08-29-2006, 01:57 AM	#6
Video Game Guy Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 1,231	yeah ive seen almost or i think everything aaron has made

08-29-2006, 05:12 AM	#7
Denny Betterman Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 3,531	I douuuubt iiiiit haha, I wonder if that Attack of the Giant TMNT was made beFORE or AFTER v3dmm...if Before it might not even still work...

09-05-2006, 11:53 PM	#11
Pogo Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 3,228	The summary then.... And that's all the weather.
Pogo Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 3,228

09-06-2006, 01:13 AM	#12
Slade Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 9,390	Ahahahahaha! I hope you all understand this. It's awesome.
Slade Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 9,390

09-10-2006, 09:35 PM	#14
Slade Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 9,390	Well I actually took the time to watch this, and it was as bad as I expected. But uh... Full Cure heals Jack for 99999, and then when Life's cast on him, it says like.. '999999999'. WTF.
Slade Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 9,390

09-10-2006, 11:55 PM	#15
Video Game Guy Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 1,231	didnt really think about the life they got back, i,.... yes, it dosnt make sence.

09-24-2006, 04:32 AM	#16
Raz Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 10,485	I think Jack's hiding something if the amount of health he has can increase and decrease at will. Has he been honest with the rest of his party? I anxiously await the next installment!
Raz Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 10,485

09-24-2006, 06:21 AM	#17
Aaron Haynes Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 15,125	I seem to recall having a general idea of what the characters' HP values were, but didn't really think about that not being clear to the audience.

09-24-2006, 03:22 PM	#18
Dustin Guest Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 4,420	Okay, I have a question. Does anyone find these turn-based fight scenes exciting? I mean really. Yeah, super to watch in a game when you're PARTICIPATING in it, but this is like watching a friend play and RPG. Is that EVER fun?

09-24-2006, 03:27 PM	#19
Pirate Balloon Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 7,911	Thats why i dont watch these kinda movies.

09-24-2006, 04:43 PM	#20
Slade Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 9,390	I know what you mean, Dustin. I can't even watch the fight scenes in the old Vlarions anymore. But back in the day, it was exciting to watch because of the resemblance, and to see what clever spells and cool effects could be done. But now since any movie that uses turn-based fights is greatly dated, there's nothing impressive about them.
Slade Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 9,390

09-24-2006, 04:56 PM	#21
Dustin Guest Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 4,420	LOL Dude, I was HERE in said "day". They sucked then, too!

09-24-2006, 05:52 PM	#22
Slade Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 9,390	Haha no I know that.
Slade Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 9,390

09-24-2006, 07:20 PM	#23
Aaron Haynes Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 15,125	As if it wasn't obvious from the series itself, what I really wanted to do in 1999 was make an RPG, but all I had was 3DMM, and I was fourteen. The battles themselves entertained me purely as a kind of animation sandbox. Most of the effects animation I learned how to do, I learned from the battle scenes in Vlarion. I am keenly aware that they have very little, if any, dramatic tension, and are only effective at all if you can wrap your head around the RPG construct and get involved in the movie purely from that angle. That's why I haven't done one since 2002.

09-24-2006, 07:33 PM	#24
Raz Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 10,485	Well, your more recent Vlarion had very well done battles so i guess it was just a learning curve or something.
Raz Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 10,485

09-24-2006, 07:45 PM	#25
Aaron Haynes Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 15,125	I'd say it was more a difference in priorities. Take a look at Alternate Vlarion 3 and then look at Redux, about a year and a half later. Completely different styles, but AV3, at its best visually, is the equal or better of almost anything I did in Redux, which surprises people to this day. Redux just happened to be where I first tried using 3DMM for that kind of movie. Not that there wasn't a learning curve, granted. But V1 2006 was also me doing the same type of film as in 1999, with different cinematic goals. I also knew that in 1999, there was no way I could make a full cinematic experience on that scale. Could you imagine just trying to find voice actors of the caliber that are in Vlarion 1, in 1999? 12-15 mature voices? Apart from MOS, nothing from that time period was even close. Most of the community was probably pre-puberty in those days. So, a combination of skill level, cinematic goals, and better tools with the expansion packs and v3dmm.