Doom: Platinum Edition *RE-RELEASE*

Doom: Platinum Edition · 07:23 AM

Doom: Platinum Edition
by JP

Mattzer · 03-07-2006, 02:28 AM

Wow, this movie is awesome. Filled with all the good elements of a movie, with suspense and a touch of some creepy parts.

Gorosaurus · 03-07-2006, 02:32 AM

Keep in mind that this isn't the original release, this is the one released right before Doom2 to improve the problems JP had in the original. Well, at least the problems we told him we had. This should probably be the one to consider if you are trying to catch up with the series, though

JP · 03-09-2006, 06:19 PM

10/10

Gorosaurus · 03-09-2006, 08:03 PM

NO!, YOU'RE 10/10

Ben Rice · 03-09-2006, 08:10 PM

JP is a d3mon himself..

Aaron Haynes · 11-30-2011, 07:24 AM

Re-released as part of the 3DMM Preservation Project. If you're interested, you can also view the original version here.

Omnirom · 11-30-2011, 10:19 AM

I really like the intro and the use of music. When I first saw this movie a long time ago I didn't get the ending, and I still don't. Could someone please explain it to me? Did Augustin just escape from being killed on Mars, and he was aware that there were two patricks because he saw one in the shadows, so he is going to tell the people back on Earth?

Salter · 11-30-2011, 07:17 PM

This is the one. This movie inspired and influenced my decision to release to the community.
There's something about the minimalism of this that is very satisfying. There's nothing extraneous on screen or in the plot to distract from the mood of the film itself. EDIT: Ah, yes... at least in the Platinum Edition.
JP makes it look so easy, too; cinematography is slick and consistent, dialogue doesn't sound forced, and it doesn't even attempt to explain everything.
The next one improved in many ways. It's a bummer D3mons never came out.

HMC · 12-01-2011, 01:18 AM

Haha Billy's character is named 'Jack Torrance'. So much for subtlety!

This is a cool movie, though. This made me rewatch the sequel. I don't remember if I've ever seen the Platinum Edition before, though.

Also I love how he retconned the line about Rose McGowan.

Aaron Haynes · 12-02-2011, 03:51 AM

This is possibly my favorite 3DMM series, and it still holds up remarkably well. It reminded me of Space Station Alpha a little, JP and Saville have some of the same talents at direction and pacing. Doom was something special even when it came out, a lot of movies have better visual effects and more sprawling plots, but it was almost never done this well.

This is the more sci-fi and otherworldly of the two installments, taking place mostly on Mars and ranging from abandoned cities to sulphur mines to the wide-open Martian landscape. JP's scene construction is minimalist, but more consistent for that, it does its job of suggesting the setting without filling in every detail. It ultimately raises more questions than it answers, but there's a logic to what happens that keeps us intrigued. No other 3DMM film does the supernatural quite this well, and JP gets a lot of mileage out of withholding any real effects. There's a heaviness to the air and the characters' fears seem tangible by themselves.

It's pretty interesting to compare the two versions, Platinum Edition adds a lot of polish and brings the story in line with the sequel, but there's something to the lower-rent voiceless original as well. When you add voices, you typically add more imperfections as well. Jeremy Dick was kind of middle-of-the-road in this and Jack's character seems more disposable next to the livelier portrayal of Michael. In the original, it felt like they were given equal weight as characters, it could've been either of them that survived, but in Platnium Edition, it's clearly Michael's show, which sort of telegraphs what happens.

All in all, a great movie - subtle, eerie, smart camerawork and keeps you intrigued the whole way through. It doesn't make huge waves, so it's often forgotten, but it (and the sequel) are among the best 3DMM produced in my opinion.

Aaron Haynes · 12-02-2011, 04:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Omnirom

I really like the intro and the use of music. When I first saw this movie a long time ago I didn't get the ending, and I still don't. Could someone please explain it to me?

This can: http://www.3dmm.com/showthread.php?t=14486

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Originally Posted by HMC

Also I love how he retconned the line about Rose McGowan.

Hahaha, yes. It's just an odd truncated conversation if you haven't seen the original, but if you have, it's pretty clever and funny.

Compcat · 12-06-2011, 09:47 AM

Pretty cheesy, as all "serious" 3dmm movies tend to be. I always thought that the religous elements were inspired by Doom 3, but obviously this came out before that, so it deserves some credit in that regard since the earlier doom games were less overtly relgious (at least I thought so). Entertainment-wise, I enjoyed it. It cetainly deserves its status as a "preservation" movie.

JP · 12-30-2011, 12:41 AM

10/10

Aaron Haynes · 12-30-2011, 01:24 AM

lol

I actually would be interested what your thoughts are, watching it again after almost 10 years

JP · 12-30-2011, 03:12 AM

Ten years… holy crap.
It's pretty difficult to get back into the headspace of me circa 2002 when I was making these, so I won't even try. Also I just don't want to do that--I was actually pretty depressed/lonely and looking for an outlet when I made a lot of these cartoons. Maybe that comes through?
But I have to say it's kinda neat to look back at a time when I just made stuff. I think during the heyday of 3dMM the program was really just fun thing, a fairly easy means of communication, and a *relatively* quick sort of gratification. I can remember losing hours in the day just working on a single scene, and then playing that one scene over and over for myself just to marvel at how it all came together with the animation and music. Little to no worries about how corny it was or how it might play to a general audience. I'm glad for it--you can see that it was a real springboard for creative people and that experience was no different for me. I work in production and design, and still draw and write quite a bit. But of course nowadays when I spend time on a project it has to be suitable for my PORTFOLIO because I've gotten a good bit more uptight about my free time and my future and junk like that.
From what I remember when I was making these, I didn't have a very rigid structure when I was putting them together. I made a lot of decisions on instinct and listened to a lot of music while doing so. My biggest concern was capturing a certain vibe, and I give my younger self some credit for doing that and also for moving every frickin thing in a scene one frame at a time because I wanted to do simple camera pans. A LOT OF SIMPLE CAMERA PANS. Back in my day, we didn't have any of that fancy v3dmm nonsense. We had to walk hundreds of flattened underscores frame-by-frame barefoot through the snow to do a simple camera pan.

Dominator Dan · 12-30-2011, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by JP

But of course nowadays when I spend time on a project it has to be suitable for my PORTFOLIO because I've gotten a good bit more uptight about my free time and my future and junk like that.

yeah, no matter how much i'd love to just get on with a 3dmm movie, i can't help but worry that it's a waste of time, especially at such a pivotal moment of my life

great movie though bro, i'd forgotten entirely how that bit with the monsters played out after using it for JDR Revival, it was fun recognising all the camera angles that I nicked

Aaron Haynes · 12-31-2011, 01:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JP

Ten years… holy crap.
It's pretty difficult to get back into the headspace of me circa 2002 when I was making these, so I won't even try. Also I just don't want to do that--I was actually pretty depressed/lonely and looking for an outlet when I made a lot of these cartoons. Maybe that comes through?

I was the same way, having just moved to a new state, so I spent a lot of time creating this whole fantasy world out of pieces of the stories I got lost in. I didn't even know who I was making it for, part of the reason I didn't care about static angles and RPG hooks.

Quote:

But I have to say it's kinda neat to look back at a time when I just made stuff. I think during the heyday of 3dMM the program was really just fun thing, a fairly easy means of communication, and a *relatively* quick sort of gratification. I can remember losing hours in the day just working on a single scene, and then playing that one scene over and over for myself just to marvel at how it all came together with the animation and music. Little to no worries about how corny it was or how it might play to a general audience.

Exactly, I think there's a brief window of time when you're young, before you've gotten any criticism or discouragement, when you're free to try anything and don't have any internal voices telling you it's a bad idea. It's a double-edged sword, because I was a lot more liberal with idea lifting and other indulgences back in the day, but having the freedom to make something stupid is something I miss. You can easily trap yourself into not trying things by being careful to avoid corniness or audience confusion, or at least I can.

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I'm glad for it--you can see that it was a real springboard for creative people and that experience was no different for me. I work in production and design, and still draw and write quite a bit. But of course nowadays when I spend time on a project it has to be suitable for my PORTFOLIO because I've gotten a good bit more uptight about my free time and my future and junk like that.

Same here, although I fell into a trap of being so laser-focused on ONLY making portfolio material that I started to both hate the work and feel too much pressure to do a good job. I don't open 3DMM much anymore, but when I do it's for fun stuff like the Default Voices project.

Funny Bones · 10-06-2016, 07:59 PM

https://f001.backblaze.com/file/3dmmtv/xQ4R.mp4

Red Venom · 10-10-2016, 07:07 PM

An amazing movie still to this day. New comers take note, there is a lot to learn. Atmosphere and tension are pulled off perfectly in JP's adaption of Doom. Creating his own universe in the series, JP has opened the door further for immersive scfi 3dmm horror. -A ten year late review

03-07-2006, 02:28 AM	#2
Mattzer Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 42	Wow, this movie is awesome. Filled with all the good elements of a movie, with suspense and a touch of some creepy parts.
Mattzer Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 42

03-09-2006, 06:19 PM	#4
JP Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 1,200	10/10
JP Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 1,200

03-09-2006, 08:10 PM	#6
Ben Rice Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 10,220	JP is a d3mon himself..
Ben Rice Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 10,220

11-30-2011, 10:19 AM	#8
Omnirom Banned Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 569	I really like the intro and the use of music. When I first saw this movie a long time ago I didn't get the ending, and I still don't. Could someone please explain it to me? Did Augustin just escape from being killed on Mars, and he was aware that there were two patricks because he saw one in the shadows, so he is going to tell the people back on Earth?
Omnirom Banned Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 569

11-30-2011, 07:17 PM	#9
Salter Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 1,958	This is the one. This movie inspired and influenced my decision to release to the community. There's something about the minimalism of this that is very satisfying. There's nothing extraneous on screen or in the plot to distract from the mood of the film itself. EDIT: Ah, yes... at least in the Platinum Edition. JP makes it look so easy, too; cinematography is slick and consistent, dialogue doesn't sound forced, and it doesn't even attempt to explain everything. The next one improved in many ways. It's a bummer D3mons never came out.
Salter Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 1,958

03-07-2006, 02:32 AM	#3
Gorosaurus Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 16,146	Keep in mind that this isn't the original release, this is the one released right before Doom2 to improve the problems JP had in the original. Well, at least the problems we told him we had. This should probably be the one to consider if you are trying to catch up with the series, though

03-09-2006, 08:03 PM	#5
Gorosaurus Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 16,146	NO!, YOU'RE 10/10

11-30-2011, 07:24 AM	#7
Aaron Haynes Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 15,125	Re-released as part of the 3DMM Preservation Project. If you're interested, you can also view the original version here.

12-01-2011, 01:18 AM	#10
HMC Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 8,715	Haha Billy's character is named 'Jack Torrance'. So much for subtlety! This is a cool movie, though. This made me rewatch the sequel. I don't remember if I've ever seen the Platinum Edition before, though. Also I love how he retconned the line about Rose McGowan.
HMC Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 8,715

12-02-2011, 03:51 AM	#11
Aaron Haynes Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 15,125	This is possibly my favorite 3DMM series, and it still holds up remarkably well. It reminded me of Space Station Alpha a little, JP and Saville have some of the same talents at direction and pacing. Doom was something special even when it came out, a lot of movies have better visual effects and more sprawling plots, but it was almost never done this well. This is the more sci-fi and otherworldly of the two installments, taking place mostly on Mars and ranging from abandoned cities to sulphur mines to the wide-open Martian landscape. JP's scene construction is minimalist, but more consistent for that, it does its job of suggesting the setting without filling in every detail. It ultimately raises more questions than it answers, but there's a logic to what happens that keeps us intrigued. No other 3DMM film does the supernatural quite this well, and JP gets a lot of mileage out of withholding any real effects. There's a heaviness to the air and the characters' fears seem tangible by themselves. It's pretty interesting to compare the two versions, Platinum Edition adds a lot of polish and brings the story in line with the sequel, but there's something to the lower-rent voiceless original as well. When you add voices, you typically add more imperfections as well. Jeremy Dick was kind of middle-of-the-road in this and Jack's character seems more disposable next to the livelier portrayal of Michael. In the original, it felt like they were given equal weight as characters, it could've been either of them that survived, but in Platnium Edition, it's clearly Michael's show, which sort of telegraphs what happens. All in all, a great movie - subtle, eerie, smart camerawork and keeps you intrigued the whole way through. It doesn't make huge waves, so it's often forgotten, but it (and the sequel) are among the best 3DMM produced in my opinion.

12-06-2011, 09:47 AM	#13
Compcat Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 8,810	Pretty cheesy, as all "serious" 3dmm movies tend to be. I always thought that the religous elements were inspired by Doom 3, but obviously this came out before that, so it deserves some credit in that regard since the earlier doom games were less overtly relgious (at least I thought so). Entertainment-wise, I enjoyed it. It cetainly deserves its status as a "preservation" movie.
Compcat Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 8,810

12-30-2011, 12:41 AM	#14
JP Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 1,200	10/10
JP Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 1,200

12-30-2011, 01:24 AM	#15
Aaron Haynes Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 15,125	lol I actually would be interested what your thoughts are, watching it again after almost 10 years

12-30-2011, 03:12 AM	#16
JP Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 1,200	Ten years… holy crap. It's pretty difficult to get back into the headspace of me circa 2002 when I was making these, so I won't even try. Also I just don't want to do that--I was actually pretty depressed/lonely and looking for an outlet when I made a lot of these cartoons. Maybe that comes through? But I have to say it's kinda neat to look back at a time when I just made stuff. I think during the heyday of 3dMM the program was really just fun thing, a fairly easy means of communication, and a relatively quick sort of gratification. I can remember losing hours in the day just working on a single scene, and then playing that one scene over and over for myself just to marvel at how it all came together with the animation and music. Little to no worries about how corny it was or how it might play to a general audience. I'm glad for it--you can see that it was a real springboard for creative people and that experience was no different for me. I work in production and design, and still draw and write quite a bit. But of course nowadays when I spend time on a project it has to be suitable for my PORTFOLIO because I've gotten a good bit more uptight about my free time and my future and junk like that. From what I remember when I was making these, I didn't have a very rigid structure when I was putting them together. I made a lot of decisions on instinct and listened to a lot of music while doing so. My biggest concern was capturing a certain vibe, and I give my younger self some credit for doing that and also for moving every frickin thing in a scene one frame at a time because I wanted to do simple camera pans. A LOT OF SIMPLE CAMERA PANS. Back in my day, we didn't have any of that fancy v3dmm nonsense. We had to walk hundreds of flattened underscores frame-by-frame barefoot through the snow to do a simple camera pan.
JP Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 1,200

10-06-2016, 07:59 PM	#19
Funny Bones Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 1,585	https://f001.backblaze.com/file/3dmmtv/xQ4R.mp4

10-10-2016, 07:07 PM	#20
Red Venom Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 560	An amazing movie still to this day. New comers take note, there is a lot to learn. Atmosphere and tension are pulled off perfectly in JP's adaption of Doom. Creating his own universe in the series, JP has opened the door further for immersive scfi 3dmm horror. -A ten year late review
Red Venom Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 560