Dark Ages Battle Pack (Huge Expansion!)

Dark Ages Battle Pack (Huge Expansion!) · 07:06 PM

I've worked on this for a long, time, the models are from M&B - but this wasn't easy at all. Every single thing had to be rescaled, rotated, retextured, recoloured, reformatted, rethumbnailed and practically re-everything. The horses aren't animated (YET!) because horses are very hard to animate and I'm not skillful enough to do such a task. If anyone wants to have a go - I'll be happy to provide models and textures and I could easily fit them into this pack wherever I like.

The textures are ALL tileable and are VERY BIG so stretching them over large plains is not a problem at all (you can also shrink them and they look great). I've made them so they're interblendable, so if you put a muddy grass patch over normal grass, it'll look like it's meant to be there and you no one would have a clue that it isn't. The textures are also all made to give the user the ability to shade scenes, whether to give a shadow effect or a variety of lighting.

I'm releasing this to show the potential of v3dmm and 7gen, and how things should be done to maximize the ease of use for the user.

Soon I'll release a small extension to this pack with textures that will work with alternatively palletted scenes (textures will be thumbnailed to show what scene they're created for, again for ease of use)

I'm aware of some small problems - for example the horses when created from the props menu are wrongly rotated, but it would take me far more time to correct this than it would take for you to simply rotate the thing!

Here are some screenies:

I've worked on this for a long, time, the models are from M&B - but this wasn't easy at all. Every single thing had to be rescaled, rotated, retextured, recoloured, reformatted, rethumbnailed and practically re-everything. The horses aren't animated because horses are very hard to animate and I'm not skillful enough to do such a task. If anyone wants to have a go - I'll be happy to provide models and textures and I could easily fit them into this pack wherever I like.

The textures are ALL tileable and are VERY BIG so stretching them over large plains is not a problem at all (you can also shrink them and they look great). I've made them so they're interblendable, so if you put a muddy grass patch over normal grass, it'll look like it's meant to be there and you no one would have a clue that it isn't. The textures are also all made to give the user the ability to shade scenes, whether to give a shadow effect or a variety of lighting.

I'm releasing this to show the potential of v3dmm and 7gen, and how things should be done to maximize the ease of use for the user.

Soon I'll release a small extension to this pack with textures that will work with alternatively palletted scenes (textures will be thumbnailed to show what scene they're created for, again for ease of use)

I'm aware of some small problems - for example the horses when created from the props menu are wrongly rotated, but it would take me far more time to correct this than it would take for you to simply rotate the thing!

Here are some screenies:

And so on.

List of Weapons:

Picks:

Steel Pick
Iron Hammer
Rusty Pick

Maces:

Mace Pear
Winged Mace
Morning Star
Spiked Mace

Clubs:

Wooden Club
Spiked Club
Sledgehammer

Axes:

Double Headed Axe
Iron Axe
Indian Axe
Bardiche
Voulge
Pole Axe
Francisca
Fighting Axe
Battle Axe
Great Axe
War Axe
Hatchet

Shields:

Wooden Shield
Iron Dragon Shield
Blue Round Shield
Red Round Shield
Yellow Round Shield
Green Kite Shield
Orange/White Kite Shield
Blue Kite Shield
Yellow/Red Kite Shield
Red/Blue Kite Shield
Heraldic Shield
Heater Shield

Two-Handed Weapons:

Scythe
Glaive
Military Fork
Battle Fork
Pitch Fork
Trident
Pole Hammer

Misc Weapons:
Throwing Stones
Sickle

Bows:

Short Bow
Hunting Bow
Long Bow
War Bow
Khergit Bow
Nomad Bow
Strong Bow

Arrows:
Arrow
Piercing Arrow
Barbed Arrow
Quiver (Arrow Pack)

Throwing Weapons:
Throwing Knife
Throwing Dagger
Jarid
Javelin
Spear
Pike

Polearms:
Wooden Staff
Quarter Staff
Iron Staff

Jousts:
Lance
Joust of Peace
Jousting Lance
Heavy Lance

Crossbows:

Light Crossbow
Heavy Crossbow

Bolts:
Crossbow Bolt
Crossbow Bolt Bag

Knives/Daggers:
Peasant Knife
Cleaver
Khyber Knife
Dagger

Swords:

Falchion
Scimeter
Shashqa
Bastard Sword
Extended Bastard Sword
Long Sword
Extended Long Sword
Viking Sword
BroadSword

I want to take this space to thank Travis Wells who helped with a LOT by answering questions and helping and making NEAT tools to help stuff along - also in general, for 7gen and v3dmm - really awesome stuff.

Slade · 02-03-2006, 03:44 PM

OOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMGGGGGGGG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

LOS LOVES YOU!

!!!!!!!

Demented Ferret · 02-03-2006, 03:54 PM

MORE LIKE LEGACY OF SILLY!!

I'm looking for sexy screenshots, so if anyone makes anything neat - post a link and I'll [img] it in the main post. Which'd be great

!

Slade · 02-03-2006, 04:16 PM

Legacy*

Demented Ferret · 02-03-2006, 04:21 PM

Slade · 02-03-2006, 04:30 PM

I see what you did there.
Oh and the last pic is broken.

Demented Ferret · 02-03-2006, 04:35 PM

The picture seems to work for me, any comments - did it work at all?

Dominator Dan · 02-03-2006, 04:36 PM

Slade · 02-03-2006, 04:39 PM

I'm gonna arduously (spl?) go through LoS and put in these awesome weapons (not including enemies, just the main characters. Because I honestly can't be fucked to do them all). I've done about three shots and it already looks twenty times better.

Aaron G · 02-03-2006, 06:29 PM

Great job, I wish there was more Chinese and Japanese stuff but, someday.

Ned · 02-03-2006, 06:41 PM

Holy crap! Downloading now... I'll test it out when I get back from campus. I'm totally enthused about those horses.

Slade · 02-03-2006, 06:44 PM

Well, when they're 'spawned' or whatever they're at a 90 degree angle, facing up. And they have no animations.

Gorosaurus · 02-03-2006, 06:58 PM

Really awesome, Ferret. Do the horses have black silhouettes?

Demented Ferret · 02-03-2006, 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chippy

Well, when they're 'spawned' or whatever they're at a 90 degree angle, facing up. And they have no animations.

Yeah, I covered this - but as I said; the whole angle thing takes less than 2 seconds to fix for the user, whereas it would have been far more irritating for me to fix. And animating horses is really tough stuff, I can't manage to do it properly.

Goro, the horses do not have black silhouettes because I thought I'd leave that until they're proper, animated models.

Slade · 02-03-2006, 07:11 PM

Hm, just noticed also the text in the actual expansion post repeats itself.

And yeah, I have no idea why that picture isn't working, but it still refuses to work for me.

But, whining aside, this is fucking awesome. It really is. This is the sort of thing I've been needing for God knows how long.

Gorosaurus · 02-03-2006, 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Demented Ferret

Yeah, I covered this - but as I said; the whole angle thing takes less than 2 seconds to fix for the user, whereas it would have been far more irritating for me to fix. And animating horses is really tough stuff, I can't manage to do it properly.

Goro, the horses do not have black silhouettes because I thought I'd leave that until they're proper, animated models.

What do you use to animate? Not that I could animate a horse.. those things are ridiculous. But maybe I could find someone an animation to base it off of. There are those bear, fox, and cougar models that all have 4 legs, though

Slade · 02-03-2006, 07:48 PM

Yeah but I think they're stiff legs. These horses' legs are made of about 3-4 pieces each, I think.

Digital Taco · 02-03-2006, 07:59 PM

Richard Bevis · 02-03-2006, 08:13 PM

Wow, those are fantastic.

Slade · 02-03-2006, 08:40 PM

Haha, excellent. Although, animated like that and then running in 3dmm's framerate may look a little too slowmo. Still, I suppose you could just animate every other.. slide.. thingy.

Ned · 02-03-2006, 09:52 PM

Ferret... I want a new pony.

Just kidding. Nice work.

Demented Ferret · 02-03-2006, 10:57 PM

Taco, it isn't HOW to animate a horse, it's just doing it - it's plain and simply a gigantic pain in the ass for an amature animator such as myself.

And thanks for the compliments

.

Digital Taco · 02-03-2006, 11:26 PM

WHY DO YOU SUCK SO MUCH >:O

Aaron G · 02-03-2006, 11:50 PM

with milkshape it takes time but its easy, convert it into an .md3 or somethin, they make nice background effects though.

Tuna Hematoma · 02-04-2006, 03:58 AM

This is most excellent... if I ever get around to making a CERTAIN MOVIE

it'll be much cooler looking! THX FRT!

02-03-2006, 03:44 PM	#2
Slade Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 9,390	OOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMGGGGGGGG!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LOS LOVES YOU! !!!!!!!
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02-03-2006, 04:16 PM	#4
Slade Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 9,390	Legacy*
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02-03-2006, 04:30 PM	#6
Slade Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 9,390	I see what you did there. Oh and the last pic is broken.
Slade Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 9,390

02-03-2006, 04:39 PM	#9
Slade Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 9,390	I'm gonna arduously (spl?) go through LoS and put in these awesome weapons (not including enemies, just the main characters. Because I honestly can't be fucked to do them all). I've done about three shots and it already looks twenty times better.
Slade Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 9,390

02-03-2006, 06:29 PM	#10
Aaron G Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 609	Great job, I wish there was more Chinese and Japanese stuff but, someday.
Aaron G Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 609

02-03-2006, 03:54 PM	#3
Demented Ferret Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 16,248	MORE LIKE LEGACY OF SILLY!! I'm looking for sexy screenshots, so if anyone makes anything neat - post a link and I'll [img] it in the main post. Which'd be great !

02-03-2006, 04:21 PM	#5
Demented Ferret Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 16,248	?

02-03-2006, 04:35 PM	#7
Demented Ferret Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 16,248	The picture seems to work for me, any comments - did it work at all?

02-03-2006, 04:36 PM	#8
Dominator Dan Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 11,564

02-03-2006, 06:41 PM	#11
Ned Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 1,742	Holy crap! Downloading now... I'll test it out when I get back from campus. I'm totally enthused about those horses.
Ned Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 1,742

02-03-2006, 06:44 PM	#12
Slade Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 9,390	Well, when they're 'spawned' or whatever they're at a 90 degree angle, facing up. And they have no animations.
Slade Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 9,390

02-03-2006, 06:58 PM	#13
Gorosaurus Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 16,146	Really awesome, Ferret. Do the horses have black silhouettes?

02-03-2006, 07:11 PM	#15
Slade Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 9,390	Hm, just noticed also the text in the actual expansion post repeats itself. And yeah, I have no idea why that picture isn't working, but it still refuses to work for me. But, whining aside, this is fucking awesome. It really is. This is the sort of thing I've been needing for God knows how long.
Slade Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 9,390

02-03-2006, 07:48 PM	#17
Slade Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 9,390	Yeah but I think they're stiff legs. These horses' legs are made of about 3-4 pieces each, I think.
Slade Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 9,390

02-03-2006, 07:59 PM	#18
Digital Taco Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 12,216

02-03-2006, 08:13 PM	#19
Richard Bevis Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 2,190	Wow, those are fantastic.

02-03-2006, 08:40 PM	#20
Slade Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 9,390	Haha, excellent. Although, animated like that and then running in 3dmm's framerate may look a little too slowmo. Still, I suppose you could just animate every other.. slide.. thingy.
Slade Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 9,390

02-03-2006, 09:52 PM	#21
Ned Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 1,742	Inverted 90°? No animation? Ferret... I want a new pony. Just kidding. Nice work.
Ned Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 1,742

02-03-2006, 10:57 PM	#22
Demented Ferret Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 16,248	Taco, it isn't HOW to animate a horse, it's just doing it - it's plain and simply a gigantic pain in the ass for an amature animator such as myself. And thanks for the compliments .

02-03-2006, 11:26 PM	#23
Digital Taco Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 12,216	WHY DO YOU SUCK SO MUCH >:O

02-03-2006, 11:50 PM	#24
Aaron G Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 609	with milkshape it takes time but its easy, convert it into an .md3 or somethin, they make nice background effects though.
Aaron G Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 609

02-04-2006, 03:58 AM	#25
Tuna Hematoma Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 10,055	This is most excellent... if I ever get around to making a CERTAIN MOVIE it'll be much cooler looking! THX FRT!