3D Movie Maker Source Code

[Plopilpy]

Originally Posted by Gavin Owers

I want to recreate the 3dmm backgrounds using point cloud data so you can explore them in 3D, but I haven't been able to figure out the view projection matrix for 3dmm's cameras.

There is no 3D element at play in the scenes, they are all just 2D images. What makes them look 3D is the depth map, which is generated from the original 3D scene files.

However, if you'd like to see something 3D-scene esque, Holmstrom and I have been porting your Half-Life 2 map to a 3DMM prop.

[French Fry]

Originally Posted by Plopilpy

Will Maltby is going to post in here next

Borrowing some of Foone's arcane magic to summon Aaron Haynes ITT

[Doog Lord]

Originally Posted by PizzaLuigi

This is awesome I think we’re seeing a 3dmm renaissance happening before our eyes.

That was the popularity over the span of 7 days. It's right now about as popular on Google as it was in 2015.

[Gavin Owers]

Originally Posted by Plopilpy

There is no 3D element at play in the scenes, they are all just 2D images. What makes them look 3D is the depth map, which is generated from the original 3D scene files.

However, if you'd like to see something 3D-scene esque, Holmstrom and I have been porting your Half-Life 2 map to a 3DMM prop.

I know, but you can use the zdepth and color maps to regenerate them, at least as much as possible. I've tried this already using a camera angle from the cave, though it wasn't 100% accurate because I didn't have the camera data.

What I want to do is regenerate the original backgrounds using depth, color, and camera data from each camera angle, but I needed the world space positions and view matrices for each camera to work properly. Of course it won't be 100%, anything outside the camera frustum and behind objects will be missing. But it should give an interesting new perspective for each 3dmm background.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Point_cloud



That Misty City port is looking nice, by the way.

[BiznessMan]

Originally Posted by French Fry

Borrowing some of Foone's arcane magic to summon Aaron Haynes ITT

Andrew Neilson or bust

[French Fry]

That cave render is so cool!

[Plopilpy]

^^!

[Plopilpy]

Originally Posted by French Fry

Borrowing some of Foone's arcane magic to summon Aaron Haynes ITT

Hahaha

[Foone]

Originally Posted by Gavin Owers

Looking at the source code, for me the most interesting file is SITOBREN.CPP, which is a utility they used to convert Softimage .hrc files into 3dmm's chunk format, including the backgrounds. If someone were to find a copy of Softimage Creative Environment 2.x and emulate a Silicon Graphics system, you could potentially make your own backgrounds and actors from scratch like the pros did (but why would you?).

So the original microsoft source had more files related to this. They got pulled out because of the possible licensing issues with SoftImage. I think they're still working on it.

I have plenty of copies of SoftImage around for a different project, so I could do that, but I was hoping to get access to the original SoftImage files for 3D Movie Maker... it doesn't look like they ended up in this release. They may be lost, I'll inquire.

[mdtaUK]

Getting access to the original files used for rendering the limited colour, low resolution scenes and angles - would allow for rendering Higher Res versions.

The 3D modelling tools available today would do a better job for creating new scenes of course.

The SITOBREN file as well as others, at least helps understand the limitations and format 3DMM expects. I believe the SITOBREN primarily handled the low poly actors and props - with the backgrounds being a whole other thing.

[Plopilpy]

https://www.windowscentral.com/nerd-...vie-maker-1995

[Gavin Owers]

Originally Posted by Foone

So the original microsoft source had more files related to this. They got pulled out because of the possible licensing issues with SoftImage. I think they're still working on it.

I have plenty of copies of SoftImage around for a different project, so I could do that, but I was hoping to get access to the original SoftImage files for 3D Movie Maker... it doesn't look like they ended up in this release. They may be lost, I'll inquire.

It's certainly worth a try. All the 3D content was produced by Illumin8, so there are two scenarios I can think of:
- Illumin8 sent Microsoft the Softimage content to be converted.
- Or, Microsoft gave Illumin8 the tools needed to convert Softimage content themselves, and sent Microsoft back the result.

If it's the latter, the content will most certainly be lost since Illumin8 no longer exists. I hope I'm wrong though.

[Bobby Swisha]

Incredible thread. Great job Foone.

[SpaceGOOT]

Great work. I will be moving these forums over to 3DMM2.com in preparation for the program's release.

[Llm]

i think it is needed for a more correct build to set the CHIP environment variable to IN_80386 before building or else the C port of the x86 assembler is in use - that seem not fully correct --> building problems with VC++ 2.0, needs casts etc.

set CHIP=IN_80386

two github forks are currently able to build or partially build that source:

more original using VC++2.0
https://github.com/benstone/Microsof...ee/build-fixes

latest toolset VS2022/Win11
https://github.com/clemenswasser/Mic...3D-Movie-Maker

[Cerveaupro]

Wow, I can't believe it's still alive and getting ready for a new generation. I was 10 when I started playing with 3DMM. Before escape rooms and filmmaking, this is where it all started

[Onattien]

3DMM RENNAISANCE!

[Bown]

There’s so many exciting-sounding words I don’t understand being thrown around and I dig it

[Dašarath]

Originally Posted by Foone

3. Make a 3DMM But Better version. (I am, of course, calling it Movie Maker Plus). Drop the 256-color limitation, native video export, easy importing of new textures/objects, replace the rendering, new tools for making movies, etc.

as long as the palette and rendering has the option to switch it back to classic. also easier editing of tmpls and actor animations and all other sorts of things there pretty please?

[Doog Lord]

Originally Posted by Llm

i think it is needed for a more correct build to set the CHIP environment variable to IN_80386 before building or else the C port of the x86 assembler is in use - that seem not fully correct --> building problems with VC++ 2.0, needs casts etc.

set CHIP=IN_80386

two github forks are currently able to build or partially build that source:

more original using VC++2.0
https://github.com/benstone/Microsof...ee/build-fixes

latest toolset VS2022/Win11
https://github.com/clemenswasser/Mic...3D-Movie-Maker

This should be useful when building 3DMM. According to Discord user '141sh1', they seem to have trouble building 3DMM. Personally I'm not knowledgeable about C++ and the inner workings of the program, but at least I can edit the bmps!

[Plopilpy]

I've been editing the BMPs since before this release, you just had to use 3DMMpencil and open 3DMOVIE.CHK.

[Doog Lord]

I know.

[Plopilpy]

Also, building the program would cause errors because it doesn't build on modern versions. You need an old C++ SDK to build it, and a copy of Windows 95.

[Space Goat]

Thanks for your work on this Foone. Please let me know if there is anything I can do to help.

[Plopilpy]

We <3 you space goatse and foone