3D Movie Maker Source Code - Page 7

ZORK · 07-11-2022, 01:49 AM

a big one to

PizzaLuigi · 07-11-2022, 02:52 AM

Thank you for saying this 3 times something you can already do.

BiotonicoDuck · 07-14-2022, 05:00 AM

just a stupid question, what can you do with open soucer?

Doog Lord · 07-14-2022, 05:13 AM

Change the code and probably more dumb shit that some nerd is going to tell you.

BiotonicoDuck · 07-14-2022, 06:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doog Lord

Change the code and probably more dumb shit that some nerd is going to tell you.

Ok

Plopilpy · 09-04-2022, 01:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Foone

BTW I did a thread over on twitter talking about my plans going forward with the source.
https://twitter.com/Foone/status/1521904206197653504

TL;dr:
1. Collect more BRender versions, pester companies to get more BRender games open sourced.
2. Make a modernized-3DMM version. Minimal changes, just get it working on Windows 10/11, fix bugs that popped up because of changes in windows over the last 27 years.
3. Make a 3DMM But Better version. (I am, of course, calling it Movie Maker Plus). Drop the 256-color limitation, native video export, easy importing of new textures/objects, replace the rendering, new tools for making movies, etc.

Any updates?

Yossarko · 11-19-2022, 08:59 PM

Very exciting.

Toystoryguy · 11-27-2022, 11:00 PM

I Found This In The SRC Folder

I Don't Know What This Is For

Plopilpy · 11-28-2022, 12:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Plopilpy

Some findings:
...

Dev screenshots from Windows 3.1, because Windows 95 just simply wasn't a thing

It's a palette. That's the palette for 3dmm during development.

Toystoryguy · 11-28-2022, 06:00 PM

So Does That Mean, 3dmm Was Made In Windows 3.1? And Made For Windows 95?

Plopilpy · 11-29-2022, 12:20 AM

Yeah, as I said in the quote, Windows 95 didn't exist at the time of development. Keep in mind this was around 1993-1994.

Plopilpy · 11-29-2022, 05:50 PM

*My bad, that screenshot is probably from NT 3.52. That's the earliest version of Windows that can run 3DMM.

Crackedeggs · 01-23-2023, 10:13 AM

So, were the original 3D objects used to generate the default scenes / camera angles actually in the source (they aren't standing out to my eyes)? If so, please let me know how I can get at them. I'd love to import those into Blender or Unreal and actually make real camera pans of the default scenes rather than trying to project and stitch together screengrabs of the various angles.

Howell · 10:28 PM

I was just thinking about 3dmm so I looked it up (I figured something good would happen since people are still using this program and working on converting it) and already have it installed. I was surprised it worked so easily, so much nostalgia .

EDIT: So how do we apply the expansions?

BiotonicoDuck · 06-10-2023, 12:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Howell

I was just thinking about 3dmm so I looked it up (I figured something good would happen since people are still using this program and working on converting it) and already have it installed. I was surprised it worked so easily, so much nostalgia .

EDIT: So how do we apply the expansions?

https://3dmm.com/showthread.php?t=17038

PizzaLuigi · 06-10-2023, 02:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Howell

EDIT: So how do we apply the expansions?

Use the Modern Installer https://mega.nz/file/9fBGXTrD#vIczpa...VVG4XmFILR XM

Howell · 06:36 PM

Thank you...I wonder if you guys could make a new feature where you could hear the music no matter where you stop the movie so that you don't have to waste a bunch of time listening from where it started. It would save a lot of time making movies

EDIT: What about v3dmm, would it still work? Cause I definitely want to start doing mods when I get the time

PizzaLuigi · 01-24-2024, 05:11 PM

I like this short week period, where Howell came back and was gonna make movies again.

Compcat · 01-26-2024, 11:53 PM

I am just finding out about this open source release now. Wow! Super cool. I can't wait to start messing around with the new stuff that eventually comes. I don't suppose there's anything available yet to try out?

Quote:

Originally Posted by https://www.pcgamer.com/someone-tweeted-at-microsoft-to-release-the-27-year-old-source-code-to-3d-movie-maker-so-they-did/

"I didn't know if it would happen, but frankly I thought it was worth a serious try," Foone said when I ask if they thought their original tweet would lead to anything. "I had asked around before and [Microsoft] hadn't been able to find [the code]... it turns out it was deeply buried in some archive of an archive of an archive. Apparently someone had to pull it off backup tapes to actually get it!"

Damn, what are the chances? That Microsoft would be willing to do this, that someone at Microsoft would be willing to dig that much for it, and that there was actually something to be found buried that deep, such luck.

Lord Blazer · 01-27-2024, 12:05 AM

Foone carries a fair bit of internet clout these days, as opposed to being some rando asking in 2005, which makes a world of difference, I'd say

Compcat · 01-27-2024, 08:32 PM

If 3dmm is open source now does that basically mean that one could release a 3dmm movie commercially? Assuming no mods are used that are ripped from video games or whatever, and no copyright music/sound effects of course. But like someone could make a tv show that aired on cable and used the vanilla actors and whatnot? Or maybe that was always "fair use" if you think of 3dmm as an animating program rather than a video game? Like nobody would be sued for using default samples in a DAW.

Doesn't seem like something anyone would attempt now, if only because of the low resolution, but I could definitely see 3dmm becoming like an alternative to "professional" 3d animating software in the future with just a few updated features.

PizzaLuigi · 01-27-2024, 08:47 PM

That’s a rather good question. It does seem like that would be the case with the MIT License.

PizzaLuigi · 11:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Compcat

I don't suppose there's anything available yet to try out.

Right now there’s only 3dmm forever. it’s very just vanilla 3D Movie Maker in a zip folder. I’m sure something big will eventually happen, it’s gonna be a long time before that ever happens as there’s been next to no progress. Maybe Plop and I will just learn C++ and do it ourselves lol.

Howell · 02-11-2024, 07:54 PM

I just got a computer that doesn't have 3dmm and I don't have access to my computer that does have it...I just can't seem to find the link anywhere or am able to download it now. How do I download 3dmm now??

PizzaLuigi · 02-11-2024, 07:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Howell

I just got a computer that doesn't have 3dmm and I don't have access to my computer that does have it...I just can't seem to find the link anywhere or am able to download it now. How do I download 3dmm now??

Modern Installer

07-11-2022, 01:49 AM	#151
ZORK Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2022 Posts: 56	a big one to
ZORK Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2022 Posts: 56

07-14-2022, 05:13 AM	#154
Doog Lord Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2020 Posts: 1,724	Change the code and probably more dumb shit that some nerd is going to tell you.
Doog Lord Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2020 Posts: 1,724

11-19-2022, 08:59 PM	#157
Yossarko Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 8,359	Very exciting.
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11-27-2022, 11:00 PM	#158
Toystoryguy Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2022 Posts: 48	I Found This In The SRC Folder I Don't Know What This Is For
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11-28-2022, 06:00 PM	#160
Toystoryguy Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2022 Posts: 48	So Does That Mean, 3dmm Was Made In Windows 3.1? And Made For Windows 95?
Toystoryguy Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2022 Posts: 48

07-11-2022, 02:52 AM	#152
PizzaLuigi Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2019 Posts: 3,251	Thank you for saying this 3 times something you can already do.

07-14-2022, 05:00 AM	#153
BiotonicoDuck Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2022 Posts: 1,014	just a stupid question, what can you do with open soucer?

11-29-2022, 12:20 AM	#161
Plopilpy 3dmm.com President Join Date: May 2020 Posts: 5,164	Yeah, as I said in the quote, Windows 95 didn't exist at the time of development. Keep in mind this was around 1993-1994.

11-29-2022, 05:50 PM	#162
Plopilpy 3dmm.com President Join Date: May 2020 Posts: 5,164	*My bad, that screenshot is probably from NT 3.52. That's the earliest version of Windows that can run 3DMM.

01-23-2023, 10:13 AM	#163
Crackedeggs Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2022 Posts: 15	So, were the original 3D objects used to generate the default scenes / camera angles actually in the source (they aren't standing out to my eyes)? If so, please let me know how I can get at them. I'd love to import those into Blender or Unreal and actually make real camera pans of the default scenes rather than trying to project and stitch together screengrabs of the various angles.
Crackedeggs Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2022 Posts: 15

06-09-2023, 10:09 PM	#164
Howell Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 2,315	I was just thinking about 3dmm so I looked it up (I figured something good would happen since people are still using this program and working on converting it) and already have it installed. I was surprised it worked so easily, so much nostalgia . EDIT: So how do we apply the expansions?
Howell Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 2,315	Last edited by Howell : 06-09-2023 at 10:28 PM.

06-10-2023, 05:51 AM	#167
Howell Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 2,315	Thank you...I wonder if you guys could make a new feature where you could hear the music no matter where you stop the movie so that you don't have to waste a bunch of time listening from where it started. It would save a lot of time making movies EDIT: What about v3dmm, would it still work? Cause I definitely want to start doing mods when I get the time
Howell Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 2,315	Last edited by Howell : 06-12-2023 at 06:36 PM.

01-24-2024, 05:11 PM	#168
PizzaLuigi Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2019 Posts: 3,251	I like this short week period, where Howell came back and was gonna make movies again.

01-27-2024, 12:05 AM	#170
Lord Blazer Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 17,454	Foone carries a fair bit of internet clout these days, as opposed to being some rando asking in 2005, which makes a world of difference, I'd say

01-27-2024, 08:32 PM	#171
Compcat Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 9,065	If 3dmm is open source now does that basically mean that one could release a 3dmm movie commercially? Assuming no mods are used that are ripped from video games or whatever, and no copyright music/sound effects of course. But like someone could make a tv show that aired on cable and used the vanilla actors and whatnot? Or maybe that was always "fair use" if you think of 3dmm as an animating program rather than a video game? Like nobody would be sued for using default samples in a DAW. Doesn't seem like something anyone would attempt now, if only because of the low resolution, but I could definitely see 3dmm becoming like an alternative to "professional" 3d animating software in the future with just a few updated features.
Compcat Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 9,065

01-27-2024, 08:47 PM	#172
PizzaLuigi Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2019 Posts: 3,251	That’s a rather good question. It does seem like that would be the case with the MIT License.

02-11-2024, 07:54 PM	#174
Howell Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 2,315	I just got a computer that doesn't have 3dmm and I don't have access to my computer that does have it...I just can't seem to find the link anywhere or am able to download it now. How do I download 3dmm now??
Howell Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 2,315