emf tags should be only sound tags

AR-Raven · 04-04-2010, 12:39 AM

Why is it that everything you customize is bad goat

Tuna Hematoma · 04-04-2010, 12:44 AM

What does "bad goat" mean?

Space Goat · 04-05-2010, 12:30 PM

When I first added the EMFF tag a couple years ago, Flash could only stream MP3 files recorded at frequency of 44100 Hz. If you tried to embed an MP3 recorded at a different frequency, it would play it way too fast.

I'm not sure if this limitation still exists with the newer versions of Adobe's Flash plugin, but I do know for certain that it doesn't support other audio formats like WAV and AIF. That is why I have kept the old sound tags; basically for legacy purposes.

To put it more simply, the EMFF tag can't do everything the SND tag can do, and vise versa.

Slime · 04-05-2010, 03:10 PM

Some people also like SND for its small player. Its why Scatterbrain uses it in the 60 minute contest. I kinda wish EMFF had a mini player, but either way I'd only use EMFF.

I hate SND cause it almost always has audio glitches in the files for me after I've played the sound once. Dunno why.

AR-Raven · 04-05-2010, 05:11 PM

SND tags don't work for a lot of users. For me on some machines it just shows up as a black box. For tuna it shows up as text.

Scatterbrain · 04-05-2010, 09:53 PM

that's really weird how people get so many different errors. Like Lohr said I use them in the 60 minute contests because they fit perfectly in the polls, which is my reason for wanting them to stay. I have no problem using EMFFs in the main post for anyone having problems.

Space Goat · 04-06-2010, 12:25 AM

I have a new slimmed down version of the emff player I have been meaning to update the site with. It should solve that complaint. Ideally, you should use the emff tag whenever possible, since they only download the remote sound file on demand.

BTW, the SND tag uses a bulky WMP plugin if you don't have Quicktime installed, and if your browser can't do either of those plugins, then you just get a link.

NearHi · 04-06-2010, 01:19 AM

I don't get a black bar or text or a link. I get a scroll bar and then it starts playing automatically. It's really annoying when people use that song from Plants VS Zombies 50x in a thread.

Slime · 04-06-2010, 03:16 AM

HAHAHA that is a great reason to keep posting that song

NearHi · 04-06-2010, 04:36 AM

Shi-it!

AR-Raven · 04-06-2010, 04:41 AM

yeah snd tags play automatically for me all the fucking time. Like the 3dmm radio thread? http://www.3dmm.com/showthread.php?t=37535 You know how annoying it is to open that thread every time and get an annoying over compressed voice screaming at you? What a TERRIBLE THING you have done Taco's Page.

Space Goat · 04-06-2010, 10:59 PM

Bryce, what browser do you use?

NearHi · 04-06-2010, 11:32 PM

Chrome.

AR-Raven · 04-06-2010, 11:48 PM

It's because the snd tags are quicktime and quicktime is a piece of shit.

Space Goat · 04-06-2010, 11:59 PM

It's not using quicktime if you don't have it installed. It uses javascript to determine whether to use quicktime or windows media player.

I'm thinking I might modify it so that the SND tag switches to the emff player if the file is MP3. That is assuming Flash can handle varying frequencies now.

AR-Raven · 04-07-2010, 12:32 AM

flash could always handle various file types. Maybe it couldn't like 14 years ago. maybe that shitty version compiled with actionscript 0.5 couldn't do it.

windows media player in browser is an even bigger piece of shit btw

Space Goat · 04-07-2010, 12:35 AM

Please shut the fuck up.

Space Goat · 01:36 AM

EMFF tag now uses a custom skinned player that fits better inline with your text:

SND and SND2 tags have both been updated to use the EMFF player if the file is MP3.

If the file is WAV, or some other audio format, then it will default back to the old quicktime or wmp plugin that it used before.

As far as I know, it's not possible to stream at runtime anything but MP3 files in Flash, and this is why the EMFF player doesn't support other audio formats.

On an unrelated note, I'm probably going to remove the SND2 tag one of these days, so please stop using it. It is exactly the same as the SND tag.

Tuna Hematoma · 04-07-2010, 01:20 AM

That is very sexy.

AR-Raven · 04-07-2010, 02:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Space Goat

Please shut the fuck up.

I take pride in making space goat show the only true emotion he ever has on the forums

Slime · 04-07-2010, 02:18 AM

awesome, thanks goat

Scatterbrain · 04-07-2010, 10:04 AM

that's brilliant! Great job Goat.

see them in action HERE http://www.3dmm.com/showthread.php?p=848895#post848895 the new size is perfect so now we can use them as standard in the polls

Bown · 04-07-2010, 08:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Space Goat

Please shut the fuck up.

Post of the year.

Crazy Ivan · 04-08-2010, 04:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Space Goat

Please shut the fuck up.

04-04-2010, 12:39 AM	#1
AR-Raven Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 5,558	emf tags should be only sound tags Why is it that everything you customize is bad goat
AR-Raven Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 5,558

04-05-2010, 03:10 PM	#4
Slime Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 24,891	Some people also like SND for its small player. Its why Scatterbrain uses it in the 60 minute contest. I kinda wish EMFF had a mini player, but either way I'd only use EMFF. I hate SND cause it almost always has audio glitches in the files for me after I've played the sound once. Dunno why.
Slime Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 24,891

04-05-2010, 05:11 PM	#5
AR-Raven Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 5,558	SND tags don't work for a lot of users. For me on some machines it just shows up as a black box. For tuna it shows up as text.
AR-Raven Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 5,558

04-06-2010, 01:19 AM	#8
NearHi Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 6,483	I don't get a black bar or text or a link. I get a scroll bar and then it starts playing automatically. It's really annoying when people use that song from Plants VS Zombies 50x in a thread.
NearHi Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 6,483

04-06-2010, 03:16 AM	#9
Slime Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 24,891	HAHAHA that is a great reason to keep posting that song
Slime Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 24,891

04-04-2010, 12:44 AM	#2
Tuna Hematoma Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 10,055	What does "bad goat" mean?

04-05-2010, 12:30 PM	#3
Space Goat Administrator Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 6,042	When I first added the EMFF tag a couple years ago, Flash could only stream MP3 files recorded at frequency of 44100 Hz. If you tried to embed an MP3 recorded at a different frequency, it would play it way too fast. I'm not sure if this limitation still exists with the newer versions of Adobe's Flash plugin, but I do know for certain that it doesn't support other audio formats like WAV and AIF. That is why I have kept the old sound tags; basically for legacy purposes. To put it more simply, the EMFF tag can't do everything the SND tag can do, and vise versa.

04-05-2010, 09:53 PM	#6
Scatterbrain Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 8,564	that's really weird how people get so many different errors. Like Lohr said I use them in the 60 minute contests because they fit perfectly in the polls, which is my reason for wanting them to stay. I have no problem using EMFFs in the main post for anyone having problems.

04-06-2010, 12:25 AM	#7
Space Goat Administrator Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 6,042	I have a new slimmed down version of the emff player I have been meaning to update the site with. It should solve that complaint. Ideally, you should use the emff tag whenever possible, since they only download the remote sound file on demand. BTW, the SND tag uses a bulky WMP plugin if you don't have Quicktime installed, and if your browser can't do either of those plugins, then you just get a link.

04-06-2010, 04:36 AM	#10
NearHi Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 6,483	Shi-it!
NearHi Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 6,483

04-06-2010, 04:41 AM	#11
AR-Raven Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 5,558	yeah snd tags play automatically for me all the fucking time. Like the 3dmm radio thread? http://www.3dmm.com/showthread.php?t=37535 You know how annoying it is to open that thread every time and get an annoying over compressed voice screaming at you? What a TERRIBLE THING you have done Taco's Page.
AR-Raven Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 5,558

04-06-2010, 10:59 PM	#12
Space Goat Administrator Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 6,042	Bryce, what browser do you use?

04-06-2010, 11:32 PM	#13
NearHi Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 6,483	Chrome.
NearHi Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 6,483

04-06-2010, 11:48 PM	#14
AR-Raven Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 5,558	It's because the snd tags are quicktime and quicktime is a piece of shit.
AR-Raven Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 5,558

04-06-2010, 11:59 PM	#15
Space Goat Administrator Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 6,042	It's not using quicktime if you don't have it installed. It uses javascript to determine whether to use quicktime or windows media player. I'm thinking I might modify it so that the SND tag switches to the emff player if the file is MP3. That is assuming Flash can handle varying frequencies now.

04-07-2010, 12:32 AM	#16
AR-Raven Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 5,558	flash could always handle various file types. Maybe it couldn't like 14 years ago. maybe that shitty version compiled with actionscript 0.5 couldn't do it. windows media player in browser is an even bigger piece of shit btw
AR-Raven Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 5,558

04-07-2010, 12:35 AM	#17
Space Goat Administrator Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 6,042	Please shut the fuck up.

04-07-2010, 01:10 AM	#18
Space Goat Administrator Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 6,042	EMFF tag now uses a custom skinned player that fits better inline with your text: SND and SND2 tags have both been updated to use the EMFF player if the file is MP3. If the file is WAV, or some other audio format, then it will default back to the old quicktime or wmp plugin that it used before. As far as I know, it's not possible to stream at runtime anything but MP3 files in Flash, and this is why the EMFF player doesn't support other audio formats. On an unrelated note, I'm probably going to remove the SND2 tag one of these days, so please stop using it. It is exactly the same as the SND tag.
	Last edited by Space Goat : 04-07-2010 at 01:36 AM.

04-07-2010, 01:20 AM	#19
Tuna Hematoma Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 10,055	That is very sexy.

04-07-2010, 02:18 AM	#21
Slime Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 24,891	awesome, thanks goat
Slime Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 24,891

04-07-2010, 10:04 AM	#22
Scatterbrain Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 8,564	that's brilliant! Great job Goat. see them in action HERE http://www.3dmm.com/showthread.php?p=848895#post848895 the new size is perfect so now we can use them as standard in the polls