3DMM Political Threads 2008

Aaron Haynes · 01-04-2009, 12:01 PM

The Super Early 2008 Presidential Election Poll
Somewhat early 2008 Presidential Election Poll
oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
Welp Ron Paul has been destroyed.
2008 Presidential Election Poll (Super Tuesday Edition)
why i am boting for bush
Can someone tell me whats wrong with Ron Paul?
Obama
Bush wants to drill in the ANWR
are you proud of being american?
lol @ libertarianism
ugh
Whitey, i have a serious question
The Death Penalty is BULLSHIT
italy: a proud nation of tolerant citizens
2008 Presidential Election Poll (GE Version)
McCain/Obama church interview thing
america suffers from battered wife syndrome
Who will Obama/McCain's VP be?
worst books ever written part two
Okay...I'm pretty ignorant when it comes to politics
bill o'reilly approves of obama
is america straight up retarded?
The economy is pretty exciting lately
1st Presidential Debate
The problem with uneducated voters, summed up nicely in the form of an IM
Is there any legitimate reason not to vote?
Who else is looking forward to tonight's debate?
Prisoners have constitutional rights?
2008 Presidential Election Videos Thread
Voted yet?
Final 2008 US Presidential Election (and predictions) thread
Bobby Jindal in 2012 Megathread
Is Obama shitting on us?
Proposition 8 supposedly passed
Guy throws shoes at Bush
Israel is a Terrorist State

I started bookmarking these a few months ago, with a preference for the ones where there was a debate of some sort. I saved anything I thought I might like to read again down the road.

Most deal with the election, but there are a few good policy debates in there too. All were started in 2008 except for the two election polls at the top.

Something sure lit a fire under our asses last year. I blame George Bush.

Zaquis · 01-04-2009, 12:12 PM

it was the complete circus that was the election

Kale Monster · 01-04-2009, 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Compcat

"deny federal funding to any organisation which "which presents male or female homosexuality as an acceptable alternative life style or which suggest that it can be an acceptable life style" along with destroying public education and social security, [loc.gov]," Homosexuality is not a trait to be proud of, its a defect like retardation just to a far lesser extent in that gays can function as members of society. I don't think that gays are immoral or evil or anything like that, gay 'pride' is about as moronic as fat 'pride.' I'm for getting rid of social security, that seems a little ridiculous to me, and about public education, I'm not sure specifically what that would entail but I think the claim might be misleading from the source information.

There were lots of hilarious quotes but this one makes me cringe at Compcat the most. I know it's about issues I feel strongly for, but it's a perfect Compcat post. Shortsighted, barely literate musings by a surburban middle class teenager.

Damage Jackal · 01-04-2009, 12:24 PM

I love that you can pick out every single thread posted by Andres.

Bown · 01-04-2009, 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Compcat

Democrat is no better, mccain or obama, either way means more government and therefore more corruption and more shittiness.

This is definitely my favourite Compcat post. It's just so awfully "fuck the system guys!!!"

Zaquis · 01-04-2009, 12:35 PM

* ears perk up * Bown!

run!

run while you still can!

* pushes bown out the door, glancing back anxiously *

Molotov · 01-04-2009, 02:21 PM

'is america straight up retarded?' is my favourite.

Lord Cardigan · 01-05-2009, 11:34 AM

hey! these are all from america! I'm bored already. But that bloke with the shoes was hilarious

Pirate Balloon · 01-05-2009, 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Willdasmiffking

hey! these are all from america! I'm bored already. But that bloke with the shoes was hilarious

Then start your own thread!

Lord Cardigan · 01-06-2009, 09:36 AM

what's Katherine Tate's most famous line?
think about it!

Sinarach · 01-06-2009, 09:58 AM

What the...

Where did my post go? Did you go delete my post Aaron?

Damage Jackal · 01-06-2009, 10:47 AM

Hopefully.

Aaron Haynes · 01-06-2009, 11:16 AM

My 3D work is going fine, Adrian, thanks for asking.

However, I don't trust your appraisal of it anymore, cause you're incapable of dealing straight with me about it. So stop trying to make these clumsy troll posts and turning every thread into the Adrian Pikios Show.

Sinarach · 01-06-2009, 11:46 AM

Ok cool. Thought I was going crazy there for a second.

Robert Domke · 01-06-2009, 02:24 PM

These threads don't have much value. If you compare them to other boards, the level of argumentation is low.

Andres · 01-06-2009, 03:48 PM

Considering your participation in the financial crisis thread, you are probably the last person that should be arguing for higher argumentation levels.

Compcat · 01-06-2009, 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cade

There were lots of hilarious quotes but this one makes me cringe at Compcat the most. I know it's about issues I feel strongly for, but it's a perfect Compcat post. Shortsighted, barely literate musings by a surburban middle class teenager.

I'm sorry that it offends you but I actually am right. A genetic trait that limits a specie's ability to survive (in this case reproduce) is a DEFECT. Its nothing to be proud of. That simple.

Andres · 01-06-2009, 04:58 PM

You would be right (biologically speaking) if homosexuality limited a species' ability to survive.

But you have no evidence of homosexuality limiting a species' ability to survive. Furthermore, common sense and logic tell us that homosexuality does not limit a species' ability to survive, certainly not a species like man.

Therefore, you are wrong.

Compcat · 01-06-2009, 05:00 PM

You could make that same argument on why autism isn't a genetic defect.

Deadstar · 01-06-2009, 05:06 PM

If anything you should be thankful, the world's overpopulated as it is.

Andres · 01-06-2009, 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Compcat

You could make that same argument on why autism isn't a genetic defect.

No, you could not make the same argument on why autism isn't a genetic defect.

This is what you posted:

Quote:

A genetic trait that limits a specie's ability to survive (in this case reproduce)

You are specifically saying that homosexuality is a genetic trait that "limits a species' ability to reproduce".

Homosexuals do not have any genetic limitations towards reproduction. A homosexual male can have sex with a female, hetero or homosexual. A homosexual female can have sex with a male, hetero or homosexual. Many homosexual males and females actually have children. They do not have any genetic problem being able to reproduce. They also do not have any genetic problem being able to raise a child, which biologically is all that is needed. The problem they might have, due to their lifestyle, is that they will not want to be in a marriage with the father/mother of their child. But marriages are not natural, and are not needed for a species to survive. If their goal is to reproduce, they are able to achieve this goal with no problem, or certainly no more of a problem than an ugly man would have to reproduce. Therefore, that is not an impediment for a species' ability to reproduce, genetically or socially.

This is if we are only focusing on the individual act of reproduction, but species act in groups. There is a possibility that some homosexuality is needed in a group and that members with homosexual characteristics can actually be very useful for the survival of the species as a whole, just not their direct lineage.

We know that historically homosexuality has existed for centuries, and the human race has certainly been able to survive. Some of the most prosperous civilizations were notorious in their homosexual relationships, such as Greece and Rome. So I am not sure what part of history you are basing your argument on.

Since logic and experience strongly suggest that no, homosexuality is not a genetic trait that hinders the species' ability to survive, do you have some sort of evidence that contradicts this? Maybe population research that shows decreased rates of birth in populations under the same conditions but with more homosexuals, or examples of human societies that collapsed because of decreasing birth-rates caused by homosexuality?

You don't have any of this evidence because you have repeatedly proven you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about in terms of science.

Slime · 01-06-2009, 08:05 PM

hahaha, thats a great list, thanks aaron

Kale Monster · 01-06-2009, 09:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Compcat

I'm sorry that it offends you but I actually am right. A genetic trait that limits a specie's ability to survive (in this case reproduce) is a DEFECT. Its nothing to be proud of. That simple.

The Gay rights movement and gay pride is a direct response and rejection of a century + of discrimination, victimization and homophobia. Gay pride is about unifying and rejecting the second-class citizen status that gay people have been forces into.

See, you can say things like "well, I'm not proud to be straight, why should they be?" but the thing is, heterosexuality has been constructed - through Industrialism and Religion and a variety of other influences - as the social "norm." Bisexuality and homosexuality are seen as sinners, and for a long time, filthy individuals and most importantly, something to be hidden and to be ashamed of (eg, the as-abhorrent attitude of 'I don't care what they are, so long as they don't do it in public.') Gay pride is a direct response to this. The fact that you need this explained to you, along with your opinions of race and a country's responsibility to its citizens, is really telling about who you are and what sort of background and position in society you come from.

Kale Monster · 01-06-2009, 09:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Compcat

You could make that same argument on why autism isn't a genetic defect.

Do you actually think about what you are saying? I mean, gaaaaad-dayam.

Fredrick · 01-06-2009, 10:01 PM

Homosexuality is as great a threat as rainforest destruction, says the pope.

It worries me that someone in his position seems to have the same insight as Compcat.

01-04-2009, 12:01 PM	#1
Aaron Haynes Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 15,125	3DMM Political Threads 2008 The Super Early 2008 Presidential Election Poll Somewhat early 2008 Presidential Election Poll oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo Welp Ron Paul has been destroyed. 2008 Presidential Election Poll (Super Tuesday Edition) why i am boting for bush Can someone tell me whats wrong with Ron Paul? Obama Bush wants to drill in the ANWR are you proud of being american? lol @ libertarianism ugh Whitey, i have a serious question The Death Penalty is BULLSHIT italy: a proud nation of tolerant citizens 2008 Presidential Election Poll (GE Version) McCain/Obama church interview thing america suffers from battered wife syndrome Who will Obama/McCain's VP be? worst books ever written part two Okay...I'm pretty ignorant when it comes to politics bill o'reilly approves of obama is america straight up retarded? The economy is pretty exciting lately 1st Presidential Debate The problem with uneducated voters, summed up nicely in the form of an IM Is there any legitimate reason not to vote? Who else is looking forward to tonight's debate? Prisoners have constitutional rights? 2008 Presidential Election Videos Thread Voted yet? Final 2008 US Presidential Election (and predictions) thread Bobby Jindal in 2012 Megathread Is Obama shitting on us? Proposition 8 supposedly passed Guy throws shoes at Bush Israel is a Terrorist State I started bookmarking these a few months ago, with a preference for the ones where there was a debate of some sort. I saved anything I thought I might like to read again down the road. Most deal with the election, but there are a few good policy debates in there too. All were started in 2008 except for the two election polls at the top. Something sure lit a fire under our asses last year. I blame George Bush.

01-04-2009, 12:12 PM	#2
Zaquis Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 15,583	it was the complete circus that was the election
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01-04-2009, 12:35 PM	#6
Zaquis Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 15,583	* ears perk up * Bown! run! run while you still can! * pushes bown out the door, glancing back anxiously *
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01-04-2009, 02:21 PM	#7
Molotov Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 4,858	'is america straight up retarded?' is my favourite.
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01-06-2009, 09:58 AM	#11
Sinarach Banned Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 5,154	What the... Where did my post go? Did you go delete my post Aaron?
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01-04-2009, 12:24 PM	#4
Damage Jackal Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 18,523	I love that you can pick out every single thread posted by Andres.

01-05-2009, 11:34 AM	#8
Lord Cardigan Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 350	hey! these are all from america! I'm bored already. But that bloke with the shoes was hilarious

01-06-2009, 09:36 AM	#10
Lord Cardigan Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 350	what's Katherine Tate's most famous line? think about it!

01-06-2009, 10:47 AM	#12
Damage Jackal Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 18,523	Hopefully.

01-06-2009, 11:16 AM	#13
Aaron Haynes Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 15,125	My 3D work is going fine, Adrian, thanks for asking. However, I don't trust your appraisal of it anymore, cause you're incapable of dealing straight with me about it. So stop trying to make these clumsy troll posts and turning every thread into the Adrian Pikios Show.

01-06-2009, 11:46 AM	#14
Sinarach Banned Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 5,154	Ok cool. Thought I was going crazy there for a second.
Sinarach Banned Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 5,154

01-06-2009, 02:24 PM	#15
Robert Domke Banned Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 3,779	These threads don't have much value. If you compare them to other boards, the level of argumentation is low.
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01-06-2009, 03:48 PM	#16
Andres Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 17,797	Considering your participation in the financial crisis thread, you are probably the last person that should be arguing for higher argumentation levels.
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01-06-2009, 04:58 PM	#18
Andres Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 17,797	You would be right (biologically speaking) if homosexuality limited a species' ability to survive. But you have no evidence of homosexuality limiting a species' ability to survive. Furthermore, common sense and logic tell us that homosexuality does not limit a species' ability to survive, certainly not a species like man. Therefore, you are wrong.
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01-06-2009, 05:00 PM	#19
Compcat Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 8,810	You could make that same argument on why autism isn't a genetic defect.
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01-06-2009, 05:06 PM	#20
Deadstar Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 1,921	If anything you should be thankful, the world's overpopulated as it is.
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01-06-2009, 08:05 PM	#22
Slime Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 24,891	hahaha, thats a great list, thanks aaron
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Fredrick Moderator Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 5,113	Homosexuality is as great a threat as rainforest destruction, says the pope. It worries me that someone in his position seems to have the same insight as Compcat.
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