New Board Suggestion Box Thread - Page 3

Lyntan · 12-04-2005, 12:48 PM

What board do you admin? Hang on, you're on MSN. I'll ask you privately.

(New board post count +1)

Thrik · 12-04-2005, 12:50 PM

One thing that I generally point out with every vB3 board ever is how Jelsoft basically nullified the margin between the post's end and the signature's beginning by default, as opposed to before where there was a distinguishing gap; it makes things look very squashed-together, and makes this whole 'the sigs!' problem that everyone's bitching about look a lot worse than it is.

If you just stuck a few <br /> tags above it or wrapped it in <p>s or something it'd probably look a lot better.

The only other thing that immediately bothers me is the post reply/thread buttons. I really love the effect that you've got with your darker areas (eg: "Page 2 of 2," in this thread), how it's got light text on a dark background, then a light border, then dark again. It works well.

Sadly, the buttons themselves lack that great use of contrast and kind of just blend into the background. In addition to that, the green text itself looks kind of blurry to me, whilst everything else is really sharp. It'd be great if you experimented with bringing the aforementioned style to the post buttons -- they'd suit the overall theme a lot better.

Lyntan · 12-04-2005, 01:16 PM

I like green stuff on computers. It reminds me of spaceships. Haha, remember the orange HUD Luke had in Return of the Jedi? That was so cool.

Thrik · 12-04-2005, 01:37 PM

Ah yes, and the links being identical to regular text is a slight issue (spot the hidden link in this sentence). It can be difficult getting a unique link colour onto lighter designs such as this, though.

One thing you could consider is to go into your [url] vbcode area and give the links a specific class. Then, give that link class a 1px bottom border in the CSS. The end result will be an underlinked link, but you can customize the border however you like. Dash it, whatever. Leave the text itself the same and just make the border a different colour -- it's up to you. The border will also be further away from the text itself, avoiding that horrible underline-cutting-through-your-ascenders effect.

The only potential complication with the above is that images within posts which are wrapped with [url] will be underlined, too. However, whether that's a good or a bad thing is up to your discretion.

Raz · 12-04-2005, 02:37 PM

I'm a little confused as to why I've "stepped back" an avatar but whatever. Sigs may look better if just centered. I think an avatar size increase would probably make things a little nicer.

Lyntan · 12-04-2005, 02:37 PM

Uh, I'd like to be able to view 30 posts per page. I've totally adapted to it, anything else feels gay.

Raz · 12-04-2005, 03:00 PM

Yeah, I've just checked and that is a bit annoying. The best we have is either 20 or 40. Come on Goat m'boy. Could 30 posts be the default?

Thrik · 12-04-2005, 03:16 PM

25 should be the default so that assholes like me can easily work out its increments (25, 50, 75, 100, 125, 150, etc). 30 probably could use being on there as well as 25, though.

Samuel Deacon · 12-04-2005, 03:30 PM

Im still having login problems. It seems that everytime I come back to 3dmm.com after going off browsing other websites I've been logged out, regardless of whether the "Remember Me" box is ticked. Is there some sort of time out thing going on here, because its really annoying when I go to post a message and I'm not logged in.

Space Goat · 12-04-2005, 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Samuel Deacon

Just wondering... can you change what the vBcode does? As in, the action tags are no longer in italic. I think they're in bold. It just feels like they've lost their character.

Before: *makes an action tag*
Now: * makes another *

It also seems to put it on a new line as well. It's a slightly pedantic request but can anything be done?

I always hated the old action tags. I like the new ones a lot better. I should be allowed to do this, since I invented both of them.

Space Goat · 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Samuel Deacon

Im still having login problems. It seems that everytime I come back to 3dmm.com after going off browsing other websites I've been logged out, regardless of whether the "Remember Me" box is ticked. Is there some sort of time out thing going on here, because its really annoying when I go to post a message and I'm not logged in.

Have you cleared all your cookies and tried starting over? Also, try not to visit the old board url, that may be messing it up.

Space Goat · 12-04-2005, 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jay Gilsenan

Yeah, I've just checked and that is a bit annoying. The best we have is either 20 or 40. Come on Goat m'boy. Could 30 posts be the default?

I just added 30 back, sorry about that.

Space Goat · 12-04-2005, 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thrik

If you just stuck a few <br /> tags above it or wrapped it in <p>s or something it'd probably look a lot better.

Yeah, I agree. I was playing with this last night, to try and fix it with some fancy tables with merged cells and all that crap. I added some extra br tags above it as well...let me know if it's any better.

This is one of the reasons I debuted with the horizontal postbit template. That one worked better with the sigs, but I got too much negative feedback to keep it soley for that.

Space Goat · 12-04-2005, 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jay Gilsenan

I'm a little confused as to why I've "stepped back" an avatar but whatever. Sigs may look better if just centered. I think an avatar size increase would probably make things a little nicer.

I brought over all the user accounts about a month and a half ago, and I updated it all yesterday to capture any changes that had been made on the old board since then, but I forgot to do the avatars. It's a separate table.

You should be able to update it on your own though.

Raz · 12-04-2005, 03:45 PM

It's all good. I didn't really like that one anyway.

Space Goat · 12-04-2005, 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cal Flavell

I think the actual message section of threads needs to be slightly thinner than it is. I'm used to reading more condensed messages, y'know?

You know, Windows has this really great feature that allows you to "resize" the window your browser is running in.

Would you like me to show you how?

Lyntan · 12-04-2005, 03:58 PM

Goat, your surname isn't censored... Also, there's two wink smilies: ; ) and : wink

Brimz · 12-04-2005, 04:00 PM

I think that the new width makes reading easier. I like it.

Space Goat · 12-04-2005, 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thomas Linton

Goat, your surname isn't censored...

Well hurry, everyone rush to post it, because there's absolutely nothing more thrilling to do in life.

Lyntan · 04:15 PM

That's really tempting. I'm so immature.

Samuel Deacon · 12-04-2005, 04:47 PM

I noticed something yesterday that has been pointed out again here...

http://www.3dmm.com/showthread.php?t=11827

There is no scrollbar at the bottom, so some of the picture is cut off, and whereas you can highlight the image and drag across to reveal it, there is no way of going back to the left, so you cant actually read much of the thread. I dont know if this is browser related or new-board related, but it didnt used to happen on the old board.

Demented Ferret · 12-04-2005, 04:51 PM

[tbox]Nooooo![/tbox]

Space Goat · 12-04-2005, 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Samuel Deacon

There is no scrollbar at the bottom, so some of the picture is cut off

No idea...appears to be a Firefox issue, as Internet Explorer seems to be acting normally.

Demented Ferret · 12-04-2005, 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Space Goat

I always hated the old action tags. I like the new ones a lot better. I should be allowed to do this, since I invented both of them.

*Cries*

Thrik · 12-04-2005, 04:54 PM

You can use your scroll-button to scroll across and back again for the time-being.

The scrolling issue almost certainly has something to do with the <div id="post_message_X"></div> which wraps each post, but I can't really pinpoint it any further. That kind of behaviour is generally caused by the overflow CSS property, but I can't find anything to indicate that other than my own assumption. :~

12-04-2005, 12:48 PM	#51
Lyntan Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 14,315	What board do you admin? Hang on, you're on MSN. I'll ask you privately. (New board post count +1)
Lyntan Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 14,315

12-04-2005, 12:50 PM	#52
Thrik Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 2,242	One thing that I generally point out with every vB3 board ever is how Jelsoft basically nullified the margin between the post's end and the signature's beginning by default, as opposed to before where there was a distinguishing gap; it makes things look very squashed-together, and makes this whole 'the sigs!' problem that everyone's bitching about look a lot worse than it is. If you just stuck a few <br /> tags above it or wrapped it in <p>s or something it'd probably look a lot better. The only other thing that immediately bothers me is the post reply/thread buttons. I really love the effect that you've got with your darker areas (eg: "Page 2 of 2," in this thread), how it's got light text on a dark background, then a light border, then dark again. It works well. Sadly, the buttons themselves lack that great use of contrast and kind of just blend into the background. In addition to that, the green text itself looks kind of blurry to me, whilst everything else is really sharp. It'd be great if you experimented with bringing the aforementioned style to the post buttons -- they'd suit the overall theme a lot better.
Thrik Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 2,242

12-04-2005, 01:16 PM	#53
Lyntan Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 14,315	I like green stuff on computers. It reminds me of spaceships. Haha, remember the orange HUD Luke had in Return of the Jedi? That was so cool.
Lyntan Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 14,315

12-04-2005, 01:37 PM	#54
Thrik Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 2,242	Ah yes, and the links being identical to regular text is a slight issue (spot the hidden link in this sentence). It can be difficult getting a unique link colour onto lighter designs such as this, though. One thing you could consider is to go into your [url] vbcode area and give the links a specific class. Then, give that link class a 1px bottom border in the CSS. The end result will be an underlinked link, but you can customize the border however you like. Dash it, whatever. Leave the text itself the same and just make the border a different colour -- it's up to you. The border will also be further away from the text itself, avoiding that horrible underline-cutting-through-your-ascenders effect. The only potential complication with the above is that images within posts which are wrapped with [url] will be underlined, too. However, whether that's a good or a bad thing is up to your discretion.
Thrik Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 2,242

12-04-2005, 02:37 PM	#55
Raz Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 10,485	I'm a little confused as to why I've "stepped back" an avatar but whatever. Sigs may look better if just centered. I think an avatar size increase would probably make things a little nicer.
Raz Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 10,485

12-04-2005, 03:00 PM	#57
Raz Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 10,485	Yeah, I've just checked and that is a bit annoying. The best we have is either 20 or 40. Come on Goat m'boy. Could 30 posts be the default?
Raz Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 10,485

12-04-2005, 03:16 PM	#58
Thrik Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 2,242	25 should be the default so that assholes like me can easily work out its increments (25, 50, 75, 100, 125, 150, etc). 30 probably could use being on there as well as 25, though.
Thrik Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 2,242

12-04-2005, 03:30 PM	#59
Samuel Deacon Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 2,141	Im still having login problems. It seems that everytime I come back to 3dmm.com after going off browsing other websites I've been logged out, regardless of whether the "Remember Me" box is ticked. Is there some sort of time out thing going on here, because its really annoying when I go to post a message and I'm not logged in.

12-04-2005, 03:45 PM	#65
Raz Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 10,485	It's all good. I didn't really like that one anyway.
Raz Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 10,485

12-04-2005, 03:58 PM	#67
Lyntan Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 14,315	Goat, your surname isn't censored... Also, there's two wink smilies: ; ) and : wink
Lyntan Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 14,315

12-04-2005, 04:00 PM	#68
Brimz Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 6,317	I think that the new width makes reading easier. I like it.
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12-04-2005, 04:08 PM	#70
Lyntan Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 14,315	That's really tempting. I'm so immature.
Lyntan Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 14,315	Last edited by Lyntan : 12-04-2005 at 04:15 PM.

12-04-2005, 04:47 PM	#71
Samuel Deacon Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 2,141	I noticed something yesterday that has been pointed out again here... http://www.3dmm.com/showthread.php?t=11827 There is no scrollbar at the bottom, so some of the picture is cut off, and whereas you can highlight the image and drag across to reveal it, there is no way of going back to the left, so you cant actually read much of the thread. I dont know if this is browser related or new-board related, but it didnt used to happen on the old board.

12-04-2005, 04:51 PM	#72
Demented Ferret Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 16,248	[tbox]Nooooo![/tbox]

12-04-2005, 04:54 PM	#75
Thrik Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 2,242	You can use your scroll-button to scroll across and back again for the time-being. The scrolling issue almost certainly has something to do with the <div id="post_message_X"></div> which wraps each post, but I can't really pinpoint it any further. That kind of behaviour is generally caused by the overflow CSS property, but I can't find anything to indicate that other than my own assumption. :~
Thrik Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 2,242