Questionz

HMC · 07-30-2005, 10:05 PM

1. Is there a particularly easy way to make scenes (real scenes, not handmade) with custom palettes? I have a tendency to perceive these sorts of things as being harder than they really are. I'm pretty sure 7gen only generates scenes with the default palette. I can't think of a way to do this that doesn't involve replacing every individual color in a confusing and time-consuming process, but then again, I could just be stupid and uninformed.

2. Since I started using an OBJ2BMDL modified to convert Blender models, all the BMDLs I create don't seem to want to allow themselves to be textured correctly. All of the models I attempt to texture are solid-colored instead of textured. I'm pretty sure OBJs converted with OBJ2VXP don't do this.

Demented Ferret · 07-30-2005, 10:18 PM

1. Back in the days we used 3dmm Pencil to do everything. Yes, easy peasy.

2. Hmmm, this happened to me when I didn't include the textures. Blerrh, I haven't a clue how to fix it - sorry.

Aaron Haynes · 07-31-2005, 12:36 AM

1. As far as I know, still have to do it the unspeakably tedious way. Did this last night.

Edit: You can import your edited palette into code\palette.bmp in a directory that has 7gen in it. HOWEVER, this will make that copy of 7gen only good for making stuff that uses that palette. Then make a scene in 7gen using that palette. There's something else you have to do too I think. WILL EDIT IF I REMEMBER.

2. obj2vxp currently isn't configured to convert models with both textures and gradients, so you'll get a missing texturegroups error if any part of the model isn't textured. I'm not sure how it works with Blender, but Maya objects that are textured convert fine with obj2vxp. Travis will have to field this one.

HMC · 08-29-2005, 12:37 AM

Oh, yeah, I'm still having problems with the second question. Objects converted with OBJ2VXP retain texture information, whereas objects converted with OBJ2BMDL do not.

Demented Ferret · 08-29-2005, 12:43 AM

Just use pencil to extract the BMDL out of the vxp; how long could it take?

HMC · 08-29-2005, 12:47 AM

I hate having to put so much thought into whether or not I give enough of a shit to bother doing that. Also, it makes 3D font-making extremely tedious.

HMC · 09-01-2005, 01:16 AM

Demented Ferret · 09-01-2005, 12:30 PM

I'll recode it for you if you post something funny; how about that.

HMC · 09-01-2005, 06:33 PM

Fish Taco · 09-01-2005, 06:51 PM

omfg hmc. that's amazing.

So what part of it needed the custom palette?? Bushes and background... orr..? The lighting on toad and mario?

HMC · 09-01-2005, 07:03 PM

Uhh..none of it? All the colors are from 3DMM's palette.

Fish Taco · 09-01-2005, 07:05 PM

I am stupid

Ryan Omega · 09-01-2005, 08:54 PM

Y'KNOW, WITH THE NEW SOLID COLOR STUFF, IT'D BE REALLY EASY TO CREATE A CEL-SHADED MOVIE OF, SAY, ZELDA?!?!?!

HMC · 09-01-2005, 08:57 PM

* glares at Bernatrick *

Fish Taco · 09-01-2005, 09:17 PM

No you guys, all my talent and skill has been drained by the devil weed.

Fish Taco · 09-01-2005, 09:17 PM

And plus, HMC only said that so he could have a post BESIDE ANOTHER BLINKING MUSHROOM.

Ryan Omega · 09-01-2005, 09:26 PM

blinky blink blink blink blinky blinky blink

Fish Taco · 09-01-2005, 09:29 PM

Now what distinguishes a blink from a blinky?

Note: This was a rhetorical question.

Ryan Omega · 09-01-2005, 09:33 PM

A 'y'.

07-30-2005, 10:05 PM	#1
HMC Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 8,715	Questionz 1. Is there a particularly easy way to make scenes (real scenes, not handmade) with custom palettes? I have a tendency to perceive these sorts of things as being harder than they really are. I'm pretty sure 7gen only generates scenes with the default palette. I can't think of a way to do this that doesn't involve replacing every individual color in a confusing and time-consuming process, but then again, I could just be stupid and uninformed. 2. Since I started using an OBJ2BMDL modified to convert Blender models, all the BMDLs I create don't seem to want to allow themselves to be textured correctly. All of the models I attempt to texture are solid-colored instead of textured. I'm pretty sure OBJs converted with OBJ2VXP don't do this.
HMC Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 8,715

08-29-2005, 12:37 AM	#4
HMC Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 8,715	Oh, yeah, I'm still having problems with the second question. Objects converted with OBJ2VXP retain texture information, whereas objects converted with OBJ2BMDL do not.
HMC Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 8,715

08-29-2005, 12:47 AM	#6
HMC Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 8,715	I hate having to put so much thought into whether or not I give enough of a shit to bother doing that. Also, it makes 3D font-making extremely tedious.
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09-01-2005, 01:16 AM	#7
HMC Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 8,715	BUMP
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09-01-2005, 06:33 PM	#9
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07-30-2005, 10:18 PM	#2
Demented Ferret Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 16,248	1. Back in the days we used 3dmm Pencil to do everything. Yes, easy peasy. 2. Hmmm, this happened to me when I didn't include the textures. Blerrh, I haven't a clue how to fix it - sorry.

07-31-2005, 12:36 AM	#3
Aaron Haynes Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 15,125	1. As far as I know, still have to do it the unspeakably tedious way. Did this last night. Edit: You can import your edited palette into code\palette.bmp in a directory that has 7gen in it. HOWEVER, this will make that copy of 7gen only good for making stuff that uses that palette. Then make a scene in 7gen using that palette. There's something else you have to do too I think. WILL EDIT IF I REMEMBER. 2. obj2vxp currently isn't configured to convert models with both textures and gradients, so you'll get a missing texturegroups error if any part of the model isn't textured. I'm not sure how it works with Blender, but Maya objects that are textured convert fine with obj2vxp. Travis will have to field this one.

08-29-2005, 12:43 AM	#5
Demented Ferret Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 16,248	Just use pencil to extract the BMDL out of the vxp; how long could it take?

09-01-2005, 12:30 PM	#8
Demented Ferret Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 16,248	I'll recode it for you if you post something funny; how about that.

09-01-2005, 06:51 PM	#10
Fish Taco Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 7,034	omfg hmc. that's amazing. So what part of it needed the custom palette?? Bushes and background... orr..? The lighting on toad and mario?
Fish Taco Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 7,034

09-01-2005, 07:03 PM	#11
HMC Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 8,715	Uhh..none of it? All the colors are from 3DMM's palette.
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09-01-2005, 07:05 PM	#12
Fish Taco Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 7,034	I am stupid
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09-01-2005, 08:54 PM	#13
Ryan Omega Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 2,808	Y'KNOW, WITH THE NEW SOLID COLOR STUFF, IT'D BE REALLY EASY TO CREATE A CEL-SHADED MOVIE OF, SAY, ZELDA?!?!?!

09-01-2005, 08:57 PM	#14
HMC Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 8,715	* glares at Bernatrick *
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09-01-2005, 09:17 PM	#15
Fish Taco Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 7,034	No you guys, all my talent and skill has been drained by the devil weed.
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09-01-2005, 09:26 PM	#17
Ryan Omega Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 2,808	blinky blink blink blink blinky blinky blink

09-01-2005, 09:29 PM	#18
Fish Taco Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 7,034	Now what distinguishes a blink from a blinky? Note: This was a rhetorical question.
Fish Taco Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 7,034

09-01-2005, 09:33 PM	#19
Ryan Omega Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 2,808	A 'y'.