put a word censor on 'Larry Craig'

[Izak MD]

very good, BR!

right out of the generic douche handbook of internet aloofness!

you're now right on track with copying bown, nearly word for word!

[Bobby Swisha]

good, Bown is awesome.

[Izak MD]

oh, i like bown!

you could learn a thing or two from him!

he's my little superstar!

[Bobby Swisha]

Izak MD

youre so weird

i dont dislike you. i just troll you.

[Izak MD]

now that my friend BR has effectively given me this thread (all credit should go to my friend BR, everybody!), i feel that it is now appropriate to discuss pop culture.

let's discuss pop culture for a moment.

and more particularly, let's discuss the latest ke$ha performance, in which she carries on her trend of showcasing various illuminati symbols.

here's an excellent article detailing the festivities: http://vigilantcitizen.com/latestnew...ati-symbolism/

now, personally, i have no interest in the illuminati per se, but i think that what we can discern from ke$ha's blatant appropriation of illuminati imagery reveals a new brand of cynicism in pop culture: one in which ke$ha intentionally narrates her own rapture at the hands of corporate entertainment (whether fictitious or entirely real, does it even matter?), all while blatantly offering no artistic input of her own, as an individual.

one of the most stark examples is from the song "die young," in which she later tweeted about it in the wake of the sandy hook shootings and said something to the tune of "i didn't want to write those lyrics, my writers made me put it in" (she later deleted her tweet)

why did she say this?

it seems to be because her own abdication of agency has become part of the system of signifiers which her "handlers" are supposedly using to manipulate the masses.

what i think is happening, is that although the "illuminati" doesn't actually exist, the illusion of the illuminati has now become reified -- commodified for the masses -- with the entire narrative of domination and control as fuel for more cultural appropriation and further consumption, resting conveniently in the background. there's nothing really positive or happy about the sort of images that we've been seeing in ke$ha (and before her, a couple music videos by lady gaga and the superbowl performance by beyonce). they seem to be orchestrated especially for the purpose of inculcating fear and paranoia into the masses, and using that particular paranoia as a means with which to create a mostly arbitrary sense of fascination.

we're at an age in which the masses now ask who is controlling everything, from pop singers to politicians. they have learned to accept the fact that pop singers lip sync, that they don't write their own lyrics, that politicians lie, that 'they may' not 'actually win $100,000 in the new sweepstakes,' etc. while milli vanilli was at least somewhat scandalous, people accept falseness and disingenuity as a part of the gestalt in modern day entertainment, and the particular brand of falseness has become accepted and judged on its own merits. the arrival of blatant appropriation of illuminati imagery functions as a sign of this cynicism, as well as a subtle shift in media sensibilities, where the mere awareness of "occult" signification turns, itself, into a knowledge which may only be exploited.

in other words, the readers of vigilant citizen are now part of the industry, whether they like it or not, and their message now aids and abets their worst supposed foes; they have gone from being "wizened overseers" to complete marks. their own vigilance has been turned into a different form of obsessiveness, part and parcel with the average reader of People magazine or Us Weekly, with only a few degrees of difference.

tomorrow i will continue this discussion in this thread. eventually we will explore an excursus into the history of illuminati/secret society theorizing, with a special focus on julius evola's introduction to the italian edition of the protocols of the elders of zion, and with an added discussion on the notion of the 'occult' or 'hidden war'

excelsior!

[Izak MD]

oh and FYI, i still think you're a little bitch, BR. and no i dont like you.

[Bobby Swisha]

Originally Posted by Izak MD

now that my friend BR has effectively given me this thread (all credit should go to my friend BR, everybody!), i feel that it is now appropriate to discuss pop culture.

let's discuss pop culture for a moment.

and more particularly, let's discuss the latest ke$ha performance, in which she carries on her trend of showcasing various illuminati symbols.

here's an excellent article detailing the festivities: http://vigilantcitizen.com/latestnew...ati-symbolism/

now, personally, i have no interest in the illuminati per se, but i think that what we can discern from ke$ha's blatant appropriation of illuminati imagery reveals a new brand of cynicism in pop culture: one in which ke$ha intentionally narrates her own rapture at the hands of corporate entertainment (whether fictitious or entirely real, does it even matter?), all while blatantly offering no artistic input of her own, as an individual.

one of the most stark examples is from the song "die young," in which she later tweeted about it in the wake of the sandy hook shootings and said something to the tune of "i didn't want to write those lyrics, my writers made me put it in" (she later deleted her tweet)

why did she say this?

it seems to be because her own abdication of agency has become part of the system of signifiers which her "handlers" are supposedly using to manipulate the masses.

what i think is happening, is that although the "illuminati" doesn't actually exist, the illusion of the illuminati has now become reified -- commodified for the masses -- with the entire narrative of domination and control as fuel for more cultural appropriation and further consumption, resting conveniently in the background. there's nothing really positive or happy about the sort of images that we've been seeing in ke$ha (and before her, a couple music videos by lady gaga and the superbowl performance by beyonce). they seem to be orchestrated especially for the purpose of inculcating fear and paranoia into the masses, and using that particular paranoia as a means with which to create a mostly arbitrary sense of fascination.

we're at an age in which the masses now ask who is controlling everything, from pop singers to politicians. they have learned to accept the fact that pop singers lip sync, that they don't write their own lyrics, that politicians lie, that 'they may' not 'actually win $100,000 in the new sweepstakes,' etc. while milli vanilli was at least somewhat scandalous, people accept falseness and disingenuity as a part of the gestalt in modern day entertainment, and the particular brand of falseness has become accepted and judged on its own merits. the arrival of blatant appropriation of illuminati imagery functions as a sign of this cynicism, as well as a subtle shift in media sensibilities, where the mere awareness of "occult" signification turns, itself, into a knowledge which may only be exploited.

in other words, the readers of vigilant citizen are now part of the industry, whether they like it or not, and their message now aids and abets their worst supposed foes; they have gone from being "wizened overseers" to complete marks. their own vigilance has been turned into a different form of obsessiveness, part and parcel with the average reader of People magazine or Us Weekly, with only a few degrees of difference.

tomorrow i will continue this discussion in this thread. eventually we will explore an excursus into the history of illuminati/secret society theorizing, with a special focus on julius evola's introduction to the italian edition of the protocols of the elders of zion, and with an added discussion on the notion of the 'occult' or 'hidden war'

excelsior!

why do you write these long ass posts? no one reads them.

[Izak MD]

my friend BR, we're discussing pop culture now, filtered through the lens of semiotics.

please.

if you can't stand the smoke, leave the kitchen.

[Bobby Swisha]

"we"?

[Bown]

I'm beginning to think Izak might not actually have a master plan only he can understand

[Izak MD]

jesus fucking........

what are you, a complete fucking retard?

[Bobby Swisha]

you sound like Ramza bro

[Izak MD]

you say the word "bro," bro

[Bobby Swisha]

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[Izak MD]

nobody cares about what went on during your family reunion, BR

[Bobby Swisha]

I dont have family reunions. Im a test tube baby.

[Slade]

for the love of god someone kill this awful piece of shit thread

[Izak MD]

the whole point of many of today's pop stars is that they are given an intentional subtext about how they are grown in a lab, as i said during the last installment.

the people who write these pop tunes are very aware of the scandal of their own roles -- that is, that their responsibility to put words into a performer's mouth, and decide how she dresses, and tell her what she has to do for PR, und so weiter

and so with people like britney spears and miley cyrus, much of their videos are about "being an object," and "being a puppet," and the viewing public plays various games with themselves, where they are left to ask, "where can we find the soul in the performer? where is the performer's soul? ah, there it is!" usually, of course, at an equally planned, equally scouted moment.

nearly everything about pop music now follows a narrative about control and dehumanization, but this is the entire point.

take, for instance, how vigilantcitizen.com covered the VMA performance by miley cyrus. their first few sentences are worth quoting in their entirety:

The 2013 edition of the VMAs was not about music. It wasn’t even about the symbolism I’ve described in past years. It was basically MTV saying: “There is nothing to celebrate in pop music this year, here’s an awkward, cringe-worthy display of everything that is wrong in the entertainment industry”.

I’ve written extensive articles about past VMA awards because they were filled with occult symbolism and messages. This year, not so much. It was about promoting major artists and their newest albums. But mostly, it was about providing a “shocking” moment that would get mass media talking for days. Miley Cyrus provided it.

here, the "illuminati" communicates to the author not through occult symbolism or masonic signs or anything like that -- anything that one would readily look for. the sheer absurdity and irritation of the spectacle is enough to suggest the illuminati's presence and immediacy. underlying much of the coverage is the feeling that miley cyrus could not have decided, herself, to do any of this. again, the author:

Miley was offered as a “sacrifice” to the public while adding to the complete breakdown of popular culture. Her performance was choreographed and staged to be as annoying and distasteful as possible. From the bratty hair, to the unflattering outfit, to the constant sticking out of the tongue, to the obsession with “twerking” without having the physical attributes to pull it off … it was all planned to piss the world off.

one might even argue that these sort of ideas had been primed for quite some time, early on in cyrus's career. let us watch a clip of hannah montana:



in a particularly startling display of mimesis, the "wires" of the entertainment industry are exposed, as well as the literal, tangible wires controlling cyrus's dance routine. children, who rather uncritically absorb this sort of information, are arguably being primed to look for such subtexts of control in their favorite performers -- certainly cyrus herself, who aged with them, and began to "twerk" at around the same time that her viewers have reached their high school years. thus begins a new generation of illuminati theorists, so far removed from their original antecedents, and yet equally inefficacious. and yet who can prime them to penetrate the controlled display of control itself?

[Evil Ash]

Not to interrupt or anything but Clinton is on another bumping spree of all of his old 2012-older threads.

[Izak MD]

fucks sakes, who gives a fuckign shit.

this whole bunch of nonsense is so tired.

you want the problem solved? fine. i'm going to go solve everything. i'm goign to go solve the problem once and for all.

[Izak MD]

ok, problem solved. you can all thank me later.

tomorrrow i will continue my discussion on narratives of control and dominance in pop music, with the third installment.

[Compcat]

Ok. I'm going to go ahead and back off if you mods feel like you need to put an end to this, like all of it.

[bl0ppin]

Are any mods actually still active? Because this should have ended a long time ago.

[Bown]

If I wasn't so sure it'd get trolled and messed up I'd make a ban Clinton poll just because I'm genuinely interested in how the overall mood of the community swings these days

[Space Goat]

Gave him a warning with a temporary ban.