Starting Point Request Thread

Skittlebrau · 12-06-2012, 12:10 AM

Had no idea how to title this thread. Basically, use this thread when you're interested in something, like a musical artist or genre, a hobby, etc, but you don't know where to start.

For instance, I was reading the "5 Bands" thread, and I've wanted to get into Pulp and Fugazi for a while. Where do I begin with those?

Bobby Swisha · 12-06-2012, 12:46 AM

Try the "5 Bands" thread. I think someone in there listens to them.

Rabid Dinosaur · 12-06-2012, 03:36 AM

Fugazi:
Repeater is their first album and probably the most famous, and I think it captures the essence of the band pretty well. In on the Kill Taker is my favorite, though, and that's the one that really got me into Fugazi. someone else is probably going to say The Argument, which is great too.

Evil Ash · 12-06-2012, 06:22 AM

I've wanted to get into sculpting. I've seen lots of people us Sculpey, and I've read up on urethane casting (to make duplicates of your original sculpture) but like... does anybody have any really good places to learn techniques?

I got the tools, and I've played around, learning what's good for hair and other textures. Good some good wire brushes and really fine scoops and etc.

Anybody have any good tips, tricks of the trade, etc? ResourceS?

Cool.

Dominator Dan · 12-06-2012, 08:23 AM

haha Pulp!

Well, I guess like everyone you start with Common People that's their most obvious hit. I didn't really check them out for a while, I thought okay that's one cool song that's all I need from them. But then I heard Disco 2000 and thought hey that's great too! And then I heard Babies which is hilariously easy and fun to play and sing on guitar. Also a great track (which is always important).

Someone then randomly sent me all the songs from the HITS best of album, the album's in chronological order, which is nice. Do You Remember The First Time? is my favourite out of those even though it doesn't apply to me.

If you're still interested after that, or are more the sort to not buy best of albums, get their album Different Class, not only does that have both Common People and Disco 2000, it has a bunch of other great tracks too. (Though never been too fond of Mis-Shapes). That said, my favourite album is His N Hers, but yeah if you're just trying to get into them. I'd go with DC first.

I think Jarvis' voice takes a bit of an acquired taste, but once you get past that, or learn to not take it seriously. You can really appreciate them.

Yamles · 12-06-2012, 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evil Ash

I've wanted to get into sculpting. I've seen lots of people us Sculpey, and I've read up on urethane casting (to make duplicates of your original sculpture) but like... does anybody have any really good places to learn techniques?

I got the tools, and I've played around, learning what's good for hair and other textures. Good some good wire brushes and really fine scoops and etc.

Anybody have any good tips, tricks of the trade, etc? ResourceS?

Cool.

I have done a bit for my art course. I wish I was better at it but you so need to have the right sort if mind to work in 3D, and I have pretty bad slavish awareness.
I youtubed for HOURS and that's how I learned. I also went into the local art supply store and made a friend there who was so helpful. Bit I never made anything good.
My hot flatmate on the other hand, used to have his own studio where he sculpted, and managed to make enough money to live off it, he was in a few magazines and had a few exhibitions and his stuff is incredibly. I could ask for hints or tricks of the trade, but I'm am too scared to talk to him because of the sex appeal.
I'm not really helping, but I'd love to see how this turns out?!

Andres · 12-06-2012, 01:09 PM

Most Fugazi albums except End Hits are a good start.

Adam Clough · 12-06-2012, 01:12 PM

I want to get into playing some hardcore Melodeon, but there's no teachers around for it and I haven't found many resources online.
I basically saw this video of a busker in san francisco and became obsessed with it:

Izak MD · 12-06-2012, 04:19 PM

aleister crowley

anyone read him?

Bobby Swisha · 12-06-2012, 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Izak MD

aleister crowley

anyone read him?

lol. suddenly the sterilization thread makes a lot more sense.

Skittlebrau · 12-06-2012, 09:02 PM

Thanks Rabid/Dan/Andres! Yeah, the first Pulp song I heard was "Common People", but the one that got stuck in my head, and got me interested, was when The Venture Bros, which had never used any music but their own, ended the fourth season finale with "Like A Friend". Its a really good scene.

Also Aleister Crowley isn't worth the read.

Dominator Dan · 12-06-2012, 10:07 PM

haha i loved that song for a time, but after a while i realised it was by far not their best, i actually found out about that venture bros scene because the viewcount on "like a friend" skyrocketed, with people saying THUMBS UP IF VENTURE BROS GOT YOU HERE in the top comments section

Izak MD · 12-07-2012, 03:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BR

lol. suddenly the sterilization thread makes a lot more sense.

what is this detached, ironic, jaded sort of one-liner schtick? is this like the 'hip' thing that people do now?

Bobby Swisha · 12-07-2012, 05:07 AM

Izak MD · 12-07-2012, 05:19 AM

yes it is, you generic fuck

Zaquis · 12-07-2012, 10:47 AM

Man you're touchy

Dungeon Snake · 12-07-2012, 07:33 PM

hey the AV Club has like a regular feature where they do this called Primer
it's all about movies, music, etc but there's a lot of good stuff

http://www.avclub.com/features/primer/
stay away from the one on metal tho, it's really superficial. they could have easily done like 10 separate Primers on 10 different genres of metal

Izak MD · 12-08-2012, 02:18 AM

i just looked at the av club one on metal just for the sake of it.... it's pretty ridiculous.

i kind of think the guy who wrote it is just friends with anaal nathrakh, and it was all some weird elaborate ploy for him to put them over

i also disagree strongly with their primer on progressive rock.

but i guess music is difficult to write about, because some kvlt guy will always show up and tell you youre not being kvlt enough.

their thing on alan moore was good though. i agree that the watchmen is overrated.

the thing on neil gaiman seemed good but i havent read much of his stuff beyond sandman

12-06-2012, 12:10 AM	#1
Skittlebrau Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 8,804	Starting Point Request Thread Had no idea how to title this thread. Basically, use this thread when you're interested in something, like a musical artist or genre, a hobby, etc, but you don't know where to start. For instance, I was reading the "5 Bands" thread, and I've wanted to get into Pulp and Fugazi for a while. Where do I begin with those?

12-06-2012, 06:22 AM	#4
Evil Ash Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 15,534	I've wanted to get into sculpting. I've seen lots of people us Sculpey, and I've read up on urethane casting (to make duplicates of your original sculpture) but like... does anybody have any really good places to learn techniques? I got the tools, and I've played around, learning what's good for hair and other textures. Good some good wire brushes and really fine scoops and etc. Anybody have any good tips, tricks of the trade, etc? ResourceS? Cool.
Evil Ash Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 15,534

12-06-2012, 01:09 PM	#7
Andres Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 17,797	Most Fugazi albums except End Hits are a good start.
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12-06-2012, 04:19 PM	#9
Izak MD Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 8,877	aleister crowley anyone read him?
Izak MD Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 8,877

12-07-2012, 05:07 AM	#14
Bobby Swisha Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 46,012	no.

12-06-2012, 12:46 AM	#2
Bobby Swisha Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 46,012	Try the "5 Bands" thread. I think someone in there listens to them.

12-06-2012, 03:36 AM	#3
Rabid Dinosaur Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 14,894	Fugazi: Repeater is their first album and probably the most famous, and I think it captures the essence of the band pretty well. In on the Kill Taker is my favorite, though, and that's the one that really got me into Fugazi. someone else is probably going to say The Argument, which is great too.

12-06-2012, 08:23 AM	#5
Dominator Dan Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 11,564	haha Pulp! Well, I guess like everyone you start with Common People that's their most obvious hit. I didn't really check them out for a while, I thought okay that's one cool song that's all I need from them. But then I heard Disco 2000 and thought hey that's great too! And then I heard Babies which is hilariously easy and fun to play and sing on guitar. Also a great track (which is always important). Someone then randomly sent me all the songs from the HITS best of album, the album's in chronological order, which is nice. Do You Remember The First Time? is my favourite out of those even though it doesn't apply to me. If you're still interested after that, or are more the sort to not buy best of albums, get their album Different Class, not only does that have both Common People and Disco 2000, it has a bunch of other great tracks too. (Though never been too fond of Mis-Shapes). That said, my favourite album is His N Hers, but yeah if you're just trying to get into them. I'd go with DC first. I think Jarvis' voice takes a bit of an acquired taste, but once you get past that, or learn to not take it seriously. You can really appreciate them.

12-06-2012, 01:12 PM	#8
Adam Clough Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 2,975	I want to get into playing some hardcore Melodeon, but there's no teachers around for it and I haven't found many resources online. I basically saw this video of a busker in san francisco and became obsessed with it:

12-06-2012, 09:02 PM	#11
Skittlebrau Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 8,804	Thanks Rabid/Dan/Andres! Yeah, the first Pulp song I heard was "Common People", but the one that got stuck in my head, and got me interested, was when The Venture Bros, which had never used any music but their own, ended the fourth season finale with "Like A Friend". Its a really good scene. Also Aleister Crowley isn't worth the read.

12-06-2012, 10:07 PM	#12
Dominator Dan Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 11,564	haha i loved that song for a time, but after a while i realised it was by far not their best, i actually found out about that venture bros scene because the viewcount on "like a friend" skyrocketed, with people saying THUMBS UP IF VENTURE BROS GOT YOU HERE in the top comments section

12-07-2012, 05:19 AM	#15
Izak MD Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 8,877	yes it is, you generic fuck
Izak MD Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 8,877

12-07-2012, 10:47 AM	#16
Zaquis Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 15,583	Man you're touchy
Zaquis Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 15,583

12-07-2012, 07:33 PM	#17
Dungeon Snake Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 17,519	hey the AV Club has like a regular feature where they do this called Primer it's all about movies, music, etc but there's a lot of good stuff http://www.avclub.com/features/primer/ stay away from the one on metal tho, it's really superficial. they could have easily done like 10 separate Primers on 10 different genres of metal

12-08-2012, 02:18 AM	#18
Izak MD Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 8,877	i just looked at the av club one on metal just for the sake of it.... it's pretty ridiculous. i kind of think the guy who wrote it is just friends with anaal nathrakh, and it was all some weird elaborate ploy for him to put them over i also disagree strongly with their primer on progressive rock. but i guess music is difficult to write about, because some kvlt guy will always show up and tell you youre not being kvlt enough. their thing on alan moore was good though. i agree that the watchmen is overrated. the thing on neil gaiman seemed good but i havent read much of his stuff beyond sandman
Izak MD Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 8,877