3DMM Magic Patcher (Run more than one 3DMM window!)

[Foone]

Introducing the 3dmm magic patcher!



http://foone.org/3dmm/patch/

So I've been tossing out random little patches in various threads.

Since this is a terrible way to do things, even if you know how to use a hex editor, I combined all my recently released patches (and added a few more) into a simple tool.

You simply select your 3DMovie.exe (in C:\Program Files\Microsoft Kids\3D Movie Maker) or V3dmm.exe (in C:\Program Files\Microsoft Kids\Virtual3dmm\System), and then pick which patches you want. Then you download a shiny new patched file to use, which should have all the options you requested.

It doesn't actually upload/download files, it's using new HTML5 APIs to let it read and "download" files locally. I just did it as a website instead of a local tool for ease of design and updating.

I'll be adding more patches to this tool as I develop them, but for the moment it contains the following:

• No scene fades
• No studio sounds
• No startup sound
• Skip loading screens
• Don't adjust key-repeat
• Don't set volume
• Wireframe Mode
• Keep playing in background
• Run multiple 3DMMs at once

At some point I may introduce a UI-patch, which allows you to reconfigure some of these settings from within 3DMM (much like the ctrl-shift-I menu). But that requires a lot of win32 knowledge I don't currently have, so it's a low priority.

[Eukos]

Awesome!
This should get stickied.

[Gorosaurus]

I agree



SO cool!



I've been getting a few errors occasionally when trying to open movies from the in-program file browser in one of the 'older' windows. Still works fine when you open a new window or open the file directly. 'Newly' opened 3dmm windows seem to be able to run any movies without any problem. I'll try to get a pic if I remember in time.

[Foone]

Interesting. I'll look into that. Are you using v3dmm? it might be conflicting with older 3dmms.

[Gorosaurus]

EDIT: Only using regular 3dmm thusfar


Having a blast!





I was gonna see if Spider explodes when there's more than one 3dmm window open. Apparently it just grabs the most recently opened one (the one last clicked in)

[Gorosaurus]

Obviously the v3dmm patch doesn't work when opened in a random folder like the 3dmm patch does. So I make a copy of my original v3dmm file and replace with the patch. The manager now starts up fine, buuuut



EDIT: Now it says that even when I replace the patched v3dmm with the original.

[Gorosaurus]

Originally Posted by Gorosaurus

Obviously the v3dmm patch doesn't work when opened in a random folder like the 3dmm patch does. So I make a copy of my original v3dmm file and replace with the patch. The manager now starts up fine, buuuut



EDIT: Now it says that even when I replace the patched v3dmm with the original.

I still haven't been able to run v3dmm since this post.


I have tried uninstalling/deleting all traces of 3dmm. I then re-run the v3dmm setup, and I still get the same error window any time I try to run a .vxp.


.3mm files play fine.

[Eukos]

No clue as to how that could happen on Windows.
One time though I had a similar issue (that was 3dmm always complaining about not finding 3dmm files) and what I did is the following:

1) Rename the 3D Movie Maker folder to something else (e.g. 3dmm_backup)
2) Make a default install of 3DMM mini (from 3dmmstudio.co.uk)
3) Setup v3dmm and check if it works with 3dmm mini.
4) If it works, copy over the missing files from 3dmm_backup into the 3D Movie Maker folder

Explanations why this could happen:
Some weird registry bug, dangus

[Foone]

Interesting. I'll look into that.

[Gorosaurus]

When trying to reinstall v3dmm




3dmm and 3dmm patched work great still

[Foone]

I think it's the "Skip loading screens" patch. v3DMM tries to do a similar patch, so v3dmm gets confused and fails to patch it.

I think it should still continue if you hit a key, and v3dmm won't really mind that it didn't patch out the loading screens.

[Gorosaurus]

Originally Posted by Foone

I think it's the "Skip loading screens" patch. v3DMM tries to do a similar patch, so v3dmm gets confused and fails to patch it.

I think it should still continue if you hit a key, and v3dmm won't really mind that it didn't patch out the loading screens.

Afraid not, I've tried installs with and without all of the v3dmm options and it's still telling me that it's failed to patch the 3dmm exe.

Can't get v3dmm to reinstall at all. Anyone else get this patch to work with v3dmm? I'm thinking I'll have to delete v3dmm and reinstall regular 3dmm and see if it'll let me install v3dmm at that point

[Phil Williamson]

Aw man. This rules and I love you.

[Eukos]

We should look into having a portable light 3dmm version up which uses v3dmm and this utility, without any Installers/Setups or something though. I'd be willing to host it but I'm not sure regarding the registry keys 3dmm "needs". When copying over my installation of 3dmm to my desktop I didn't have to do any registry patches so I guess it could work but I am not 100% sure.

I think this would bring some old peeps back since having an instant setup would be easy as cake.

[Foone]

Originally Posted by Eukos

I'm not sure regarding the registry keys 3dmm "needs".

I don't believe it needs any, if you're taking about v3dmm. I seem to remember it emulates the registry out from under 3DMM

[Eukos]

I will set up a stand alone download of 3dmm then, including this tool if you don't mind?

[Trooper]

Damn, this is brilliant. The pausing when not the active window can be really inconvenient and I've definitely had the key repeat problems from time to time - mostly when I've ever had to close 3dmm manually I think.

[Foone]

Go right ahead.

[Foone]

I think you just need to replace the 3DMOVIE.EXE file (in C:\Program Files\Microsoft Kids\3D Movie Maker) with the original CD copy, then install v3dmm, and it should work.

[Eukos]

Alright, set everything up so far.
I only just noticed that the Patches folder in v3dmm is totally obsolete, so I obviously cannot include this within the download LOL.
Anyway, the only thing left is including the US example movies, since I only have the german versions of them.
Then I'll upload.

Tested this on two machines, Vista and XP. Oh and btw, getting the MIDI bug on Vista fixed would be A+.

It works absolutely fine out of the box. Only need to set Directories really.

Edit:
Done.

[Bown]

Fuuuuuuuuck this is so cool. Wanna see a wireframe gif of Godzilla from Redux

[Foone]

I pushed a super-minor update to the patch list, it just fixes a typo in a description I hadn't noticed.

Anyway, part of the point of this project is that it's extensible, I can easily add more patches as time goes on. I'm adding them as I naturally come across them, but if anyone has any ideas for things to look at I'm open for suggestions.

[Eukos]

A MIDI fix for Vista would be great, when you pause a video/switches scene or music the previous track's note keeps playing indefinitly

[Jt Copper]

How about a patch that plays sounds like music? You know whenever you play a long sound, lets say a Wav. music sound, and in order to play the sound you have to go back from where the sound started to play, as this makes it a pain in the ass to sync music, so you should make a patch that when you pause then continue the movie the sound plays from where it left off. Sorry if you dont get what im talking about, but im having a hard time trying to explain it.

Either that, or make a patch where you can put midi music sounds on actors or props.

[Eukos]

I believe that requires more than just a patch by changing HEX values. The stop button stops all audio from the movie, it doesn't pause it. It would be an entirely new feature... as you can see these patches here only changes some values to either prevent things from happening such as the running multiple windows being blocked or having the rendermode changed to wireframe. These things are only possible since they are already in the code... I doubt they had done a function for pausing wave files otherwise they would have probably implemented it into the final program.

About the MIDI's on actors, I think you cannot do that because of the limited amount of midi channels available, I could be wrong though. I remember in the past that my system messed up when trying to play multiple midi files, but that was over a decade ago... well Travis has to try.